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yes 1st person POV is currently "in" with a lot of people but when I started writing, people got on the internet and claimed constantly that 1st person POV was for people too lazy to learn the craft of conveying deep POV in third. people have always had weird preferences & always will!

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“I have had readers come up to me at book signings and say, to my face, ‘I won’t read this book of yours because it’s in third person.’ ” slate.trib.al/T4OhzHf

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It’s funny, my brain struggles mightily to stay in books written in 1st person present tense, particularly if it’s dual perspective. My brain constantly falls out of the story and focuses on the sentences. This means I’ve largely been pushed out of romance due to present trends. To each their own!

Probably, but most of the bestsellers that get talked about or the ones I flip through in the bookstore seem to be first person present tense. And my problem is only with first person present tense. Past tense is fine.

Back to this subject again, but Kushiel’s Legacy would’ve been a. Entirely different series of books had they been written in third person. It’s definitely a pet peeve of mine when people claim that 1st person is lazy or lacking in depth.

I mean, I hate *any* generalization that says that a trope or a POV or a tense or whatever is universally bad. that just... seems silly? and lazy? what a weird thing to think! (though I do think you can write 3rd just as close as 1st, there doesn't have to be any practical difference really)

Oh, I agree entirely. I also have no real preference other than that I like close. And I really do not care what anyone else prefers. I’m certainly not going to judge anyone for their preferences.

I can't write 1st person lol But also literacy has gone through phases like this before, right? Like when Arthur C Doyle & Agatha Christie were writing, it was common for the narrator to be someone who was recalling a story to you. 1st person & 3rd person just trade places every now & again

I think second is best when you're trying to characterize something or someone uncanny or falling into delusion--I did that with one character and it was very very eerie. (Diana Andrews-Landreth, in Netwalking Space, coming under possession by her dead father-in-law)

First person present was really huge in dystopian reader circles I was in back in the day in the wake of Hunger Games among others. Maybe even part of why some romance authors are now utilising first person. But the audience of people who are contrary to trends or who don't care is still huge!

As far as whether it's 'lazy' or whatever goes, I've always thought anything easy-seeming about first person was deceptive. Easy to quickly get in the head of a character perhaps but super difficult to craft a compelling and unique voice. Almost like every style has its unique challenges!

Ha, I was just complaining because sections of the book I just started are in 2nd and I do not care for it. There's also some prose poetry sections & I hate that this book is otherwise really engaging, especially compared to the last one I finished, because I usually don't care for style tics at all

I like how there's these periodic fashions in literature that come and go and there's always someone available to claim it is some earthshifting new thing that will reshape literature forever

nothing will ever reshape literary culture forever, it's just whatever books were the latest gateway books. My personal theory is that first person is currently having its moment because a lot of the recent breakout books (ACOTAR, Fourth Wing)--the kind that bring in NEW obsessed readers, were 1st.

(I honestly don't notice POV unless it's being written poorly--if I am thinking about what POV your book is in, we've gotten way into the weeds. I'm actually starting to second-guess myself if Fourth Wing & ACOTAR were actually 1st person now. MAYBE NOT? LOL)

I remember the first time I heard a craft talk on romance (back in 2015) the going philosophy was that first person didn't work well because readers didn't want to be inserted directly into the sex scenes! How things change lol.

The POV wars are exhausting. Learn the rules so you know why you're breaking them. That's the difference between lazy writing and intentional craft. Both POVs can work if you understand the mechanics.

So many people actively hate 2P POV, but there are a surprising number of hit songs that use it (and not just 1P addressing a 2P). "Fight For Your Right" by Beastie Boys comes to mind. Nobody ever said, "Don't tell me what to fight for!"

My story for last year's "Born to Run" challenge on @literotica.com was inspired by Bruce Springsteen's "Night". I decided to use 2P like the song, and it dictated the tone of the story. I think made it much better than it would have been in 1P, and a 4.74⭐ rating seems to bear that out.

I cannot rave enough about Tamsyn Muir's choice to put most of Harrowhawk the Ninth in 2nd person POV! Especially when experienced as an audiobook, because it's like Moira Quirk is performing a hypnotic induction on you while you read it!

My current WiP varies POV: The A story is 1st person, w/2 protagonists. Standard queer/trans romance format. The B story is the fictional trans-affirming magical girl anime that brings the characters together. It's in 3rd person. Then the pilots interweave & progress in tandem. I'm having fun!😁

My weird take is 1st person gives me the strongest sense of separation between myself and the character. In 2nd or 3rd I feel like I'm "playing" a character. 1st feels like someone with a deeply uncanny memory telling me something almost no one would tell a stranger.

(I have read and enjoyed 1st books too, it just presents a little bump for me to get over in the beginning, which is why I was shocked when I first heard someone say 1st was "more intimate")