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“I have a point I would like to make. And I will not be inconvenienced by facts that don’t support my point.” - Too many people in the outrage business

Iraq was W's undoing imho. Initial bump and then a steady erosion of support as reality set in.

"Young people won't remember this...". Lol, old people won't remember this either.

People forget Harriet Myers, trying to privatize Social Security, trying to give port access to the Saudis all from 2005 as well.

Noah Smith is the prime example for how bad cognitive biases can be in some people. He will is guaranteed to come to a conclusion he wants, not matter how stupid the analysis required to get there is.

Exactly right. Katrina was not the point at which Bush "started to lose the country", it was the point at which his long steep slide finally seemed irreversible.

This will become more and more of an issue as we move more and more towards independent media. How many independent pundits are hiring fact-checkers?

Trump's Katrina (if such a thing exists) was Minneapolis.

Noah sucks. He's always sucked

These people continue to have a platform no matter how wrong nor how often they are wrong. @noahpinion.blogsky.venki.dev Is the patron saint for those with takes which will not age well.

I mean it’s Noah Smith. At this point I’d believe a story claiming he’s being wrong intentionally.

Two words: Eye Rock.

My issue with Bush was rushing into Afghanistan then to Iraq with no real plan. My military family member started high school right before 9/11, graduated then went to a military academy, graduated and the war was still going on! He did more tours over there than I can count. No more wars!

Harriet Myers as well. That made him look like a complete moron.

Yeah but his party and donors might win that fight in the long run, basically because the left didn’t think doing politics was worth heir time

Eh. Katrina had a direct impact on perceptions of Iraq. It was a clear demonstration of Admin incompetence and led to Dems shifting on Iraq war that fall. Bush went from mid 40s to low 30s when surge was announced. Katrina triggered a collapse.

Well said. Americans saw thru GWB's lies & his WH when Colbert spoke at WHCA dinner in April '06. He mocked DC media elites & pierced GWB's Potemkin Village Fox News, TalkRadio & DC msm had enabled. Russert & DC msm were so upset, Rich Little was hired for 2007 dinner www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGTR...

Please clap.

It was one thing after another in Bush's second term: *Social Security privatization *Amnesty for undocumented (right wing hated it) *Katrina *Abramoff scandal *Financial crisis All unfolding against the backdrop of the Iraq quagmire

It’s a narrative that makes sympathetic folks feel that, if it were not for that one choice (or lack thereof) the GOP would be genuinely popular

There was no cult around W. I remember being surprised he won re-election.

Yeah, it's where he dropped down to 30 in 2006, I think. He was already reviled, but Katrina made him toxic.