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NEW: This church teaches that once an abuser is forgiven, anyone who speaks about the wrongdoing can be accused of having an unforgiving heart. The burden of sin would shift from the person who committed the act to the person who won’t let the matter rest. W/ @startribune.com

propublica.orgIn This Church, Child Sexual Abuse Has Gone Unchecked for So Long That It Spans GenerationsThe church's culture of forgiving and forgetting sins has absolved abusers and silenced victims across the country.

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No wonder why people are leaving churches! I know they are not all good but this one seems extremely bad. I would bet big money that it was started by a man who was a pedophile that was trying to get away with it. Churches are powerful places & great for keeping crimes going unfettered!

I bet that a serial rapist or pedophile started this abomination! That’s not a church but an excuse for not punishing bad people.

Every ABUSER relies on many ENABLERS. SILENCE ENABLES MORE ABUSE. Anyone asking for silence to a crime, including family members, trusted friends, or lawyers and judges, is an ABUSER, and/or an ABUSE ENABLER. They are equally complicit in these abhorrent crimes and need to he treated like criminals.

should take a look at the project 2025 plans for women, real attempt to create nothing but tradwives, you can already see the efforts-eliminating student loans for fields women pursue, going after women’s right to vote, going after women in govt jobs & the military, referring to women as dei hires

Exactly! Watching that series now and the parallels between the tRump regime and the structure and rules and goals of Gilead are mind blowing.The only fracture is that Trump is no more a believer in any god than he is a brilliant business man. Gilead has bastardized god, just as Evilgelicals have.

Another example of how evil religion truly is. Can someone please name one good thing that any religion has done for the world? I'm talking something that benefitted humanity as a whole and isn't superseded by all the horrific abuses that they've perpetrated against humankind.

Of course. Because all religion is CULT, and all cult is designed to keep people feeling victimized and vulnerable so the cult can take advantage of that to continue exerting control over its adherents. It's all so the cult leader(s) can gather resources for themselves & get a mob to promote them.

Sin-flattening like this is basic American Christian theology. Sexual assault is always the survivor’s fault, whatever reasoning the congregation has to use to get there. Abusers know asking for forgiveness is a get out of jail free card & asking for accountability is “bitterness”.

Not the only church organization, by far; systemic within Christianity. Not why I left organized religion but saw too much never addressed. Asked a pastor why he didn't report a father for chaining his teen son to a tree. "We're trying to save him. We'll help the boy leave." 😡 Faith is private.

It's God's job to forgive. It's our collective job to protect children from pedophiles. They don't change. In 44 years of working in child protection they reaffend over and over. Never trust a supposed redeemed pedophile. They don't change.

Yeah, when your priest/minister/(magic guy in a dress)/what have you, starts preaching that it’s time to check their browser history, and ask how their wife and daughter got those bruises. Disturbing how many churches are like this. Different denominations,from basically cults to some mega churches⛪️

A big poster with this should be behind every Democratic Congressperson/Senator when they’re questioning Trump officials. They can pull out a pointer stick and tap the relevant bullet every time the official uses the ploy.

Evangelical Christianity is child abuse. It is absolutely terrible, it is a mental disease that destroys rationality and it is unfortunately also communicable. I was lucky to get out mentally. I just wish I could distance myself physically. It’s soul-crushing to be around. Willful ignorance.

Using the concept of forgiveness to transform the victim of abuse into the primary sinner is a masterclass in theological manipulation. Old Apostolic Lutheran Church Abuse Teachings Evidence: spiritual grace, victim silencing, abuser protection

In reality, this doctrine shifts the guilt from the predator to the victim, weaponizing faith to enforce silence and protect abusers from accountability. Resulting Judgement: (-1.0, -1.0) — Greater Evil

Religion is largely just sex trafficking. I’m sure there is some good people doing some good things, but on the whole, pretty much it’s just pimping and trafficking.

Failed broken society The Christo fascists hypocrites have fucked this country up so bad Incest is best if kept in the family their motto I hope St Peters spit in their fucking faces as he boots their ass to purgortory

This is a very common tactic used by predators to escape accountability, freeing them to continue seeking their next opportunity to commit sexual violence.

This is why I've turned by back on religions. When I learned of systemic abuses by Christian churches in the Americas via Residential School system and the Sixties Scoop(1950s to present) where Indigenous children were kidnapped and brainwashed to be 'good Christians' like Russia in Ukraine I cried.

You forget that if religious clerics couldn't rape children every hour on the hour & be forgiven, then nobody would become a pastor & every seminary would be empty. Wouldn't even believe in God neither. God'd abandon us for Venus where He can watch more porn there.

Isn’t that the truth!! I have experienced exactly that. Recently, I watched an exceedingly pious woman that I had just met,treat a waitress in the most vile condescending manner possible. I am an atheist, and she is proof enough that there is no god. Or, he is an evil jokester to create that POS.

Correct. The instruction manuals give the justification, but the impetus for the act always comes from the individual. There has never been a "God" to physically force anyone to do anything, ever.

Largely true for me but curiously some of the sweetest and most wholesome people I’ve met are too. Hell right at the top of the sweet and wholesome list is a friend of mine who’s a JW - which someone else told me years later because she never brought it up herself.

Evangicals spending the last decade saying they voted for Trump because they were Christian pretty much put the idea of identifying as Christian meaning they have good morals to bed.

I've met both kind and unkind people in religious and non-religious circles. In my experience, morality and decency come from how people choose to treat others, not simply from whether they identify with a religion. Actions tend to tell us far more than labels.

This is some horseshit oppression of women and girls through the guise of “religion”. #FuckThePatriarchy #MatriarchyRising religion is not relationship.

Welcome to why Religion should be illegal in organized forms. Clearly people abuse it way too much and way too often. It's consistent every week at this point. Random Republican religious man guilty of raping kids.

*every adult. Wives knowingly don't report abuse because they're told not to. Mothers don't report abuse because they were abused themselves and see it as no big deal. Elder women don't report it because they don't want to be shunned. It's not just men that are the issue.

Clerics, school teachers and youth workers who have obtained a position of trust in order to abuse the children placed in their care should recieve deterrent prison sentences with no excuses.

Well, isn’t the church representatives of God? They are not God right? Their sinful , imperfect human condition is limited so, that how we fix that misunderstanding.

Churches are a haven for abusers. Women, and children. All they have to say is, “Prays Jesus.” And they hand their children to a stranger. The priest told my mom to pray and ask for forgiveness after my dad beat her and cheated on her. All religions and churches are evil.

All religions are a practice for sick diseased men that prey on children, and vulnerable women, in the guise of being messengers of god. No god will forgive such men and neither should we as humans.

Not that uncommon in evangelical ‘sects’. Jehovah’s Witnesses are rife with it, when convenient. Rape a child, get forgiven. Be the victim, get disfellowshipped. Always kept quiet as an ‘internal matter’. Tax churches as 501(c) 3, watch the grifters and abusers scatter.

Taxation won't remove abusers. Just look at the GOP. Taxed and still abusing. I wish I could say sunshine fixes the issue, but, again, look at the GOP. Apparently the only fix is dissolution and removing predators from easily accessible prey.

It’s not the taxes per se, it’s that 501(c)3s have to: - argue that they are a force for the greater societal good, with evidence of their works - open their accounting for review That would remove much of the cover for the grifters in charge, who in turn provide cover for the abusers.

Congregations that legitimately do good work would still qualify, those that are tax shelters and abuse engines would not. No more assumption of good works via the label ‘church’.

So true!! I got married very young in my early twenties. We got lured into the JW cult. My then husband started beating me. I went to the elders for help but their exact words were “Well, if he kills you, you will go to heaven “!! I left them and my husband. They disfellowshipped me, Thank God!

Not everyone deserves forgiveness. The REAL reason God destroyed Sodom and Gamorah wasn’t bc ppl were gay- it was due to RAPE and similar shit that happened on Epstein Island happening there! Especially to the daughters the king was willing to throw to the crowd (to be raped)

So many of these churches instead of punishing the abuser force the young woman who's been abused to marry the abuser if he made her pregnant, thus leading to having no future out of the cycle of having lots of kids by an awful man and having no hope.

I don't know which is true (must/ dont need to forgive) but the energy pushing forgiveness is certainly "suss". The healthiest thing I've heard is "living well is the best revenge". The focus can be on your life and your happiness without the focus on the abuser primarily- if at all.

That’s the end goal. Evangelicals are working to legalize and normalize adult men raping, impregnating and marrying preteen girls. Look at legislative action (proposed,enacted or otherwise) surrounding marriage, healthcare, divorce, etc and xthis becomes readily apparent.

Forgiving does not mean accepting, ignoring victims, allowing abusers to continue to abuse, blaming victims for the abuse, etc. I can stand being told I have an unforgiving heart if that's the price of stopping repeat offenders...and it is.

It is sad in this time of the internet and information, that people are still being sucked into believing there is a god who is watching over them, and that they need to go to church each week and donate. We need more education and critical thinking, questioning. Religion is the root problem of all.

In the Bible it says the wounds of Jesus have never gone away. Forgiveness doesn’t mean that the harm disappears. Judaism and Islam teach that God forgives sins against God, but you have to atone for sins against another person