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Hmm...So what? Anyone can strongly dispute assertions. That means nothing unless they back it up It's amazing how so many loyal Dems like Cooper are bothered that Bryan Tyler Cohen's Zionist, pro-Dem organization got exposed

I did. What I said still stands Neither you, nor the people you posted--including the loathsome Israeli war-crimes defending Pakman--rebutted Lorenz' factual points People should be disturbed the Zionist, Dem-connected Cohen & crew are trying to de-progressivize the "leftist" pod-space

yes they did. Lorenz claimed they're not allowed to criticize Dems, she and others have done so. Lorenz claims they are required to keep the relationship secret, but several of them have posted about it publicly before

it also makes that Chorus thing look a lot better. according to her, they *are* doing a lot of the talent pipeline and backend stuff that I mentioned earlier, it's not at all secret, and they *aren't* exercising an iron grip on what the creators say bsky.app/profile/ryan...

ryan cooper@ryanlcooper.com

I think paying established influencers would likely work okay, though I'd like to see more of a talent development pipeline rather than buying up big accounts. trying to keep it secret and attaching all kinds of conditions, though, not so smart, because it's going to leak and discredit them

here we go. Wired alleges that the contract says Chorus members can't *disclose* the relationship without permission, but what it actually says is *publicize.* not the same thing!

you can't buy into the one thing and then tell me you're doing something else. you can't. I know you're probably a paid subscriber and everything so you don't notice this stuff. lots of journalists don't. but I do and I know it doesn't matter at all

I can't actually listen to this. because I deleted my Facebook account. and I have to sign up do it again to hear the audio. instead of watching his face. I no longer care why he found it chorus although to be fair I know it's benign. anybody who buys into that, I am definitely checking out of

I don’t have any skin in this game, but Chorus is distinct from the 1630 Fund. I don’t think Taylor made any allegations about Chorus. Her story is about the terms for the funds coming from the 1630 Project. BTC’s video seems to only be about Chorus, sidestepping the issue

You're doing exactly the thing they wanted. Falling for it hook, line, and sinker. By believing the people most likely to already agree with their bottom line and ignoring those who turned down the money, or were never asked, you assume a limited pov. Survivorship bias, every time.

If this is truly the case, how many of these people are calling Israel’s actions a genocide? If it’s significantly less than the 77% of all democrats that feel the same, then, well, there you go

there seem to be onerous contract terms that these creators almost certainly didn't read and aren't being enforced anyway. so the facts of the reporting may be correct, but the substance is maybe a bit less substantial than Lorenz would claim.

To me the only concerning part was the secrecy - this video is clearly not from someone keeping her relationship with Chorus a secret, but I'm curious whether other creators are, and whether there's anything saying they need to do so in their contracts.

Dems should be loud & proud re promoting our ideals, & yes, people can & do get paid to promote Dem policy, facts, etc., just like MAGAts & religious leaders like Franklin the antiChrist Graham. As long as there's transparency & the legal line is towed, that's all that maters. Dark money, tho...

Who are these liberal donors & where's all my free money? If I had obscene wealth. I'd set up a totes doable super low interest long term loan program & mentoring assistance that would help bail people out of debt, pay immediate needs, etc. Not charity or ownership but a rising tide hand up.

everyone is walking away from that piece with the impression that it puts a general gag order on people. the piece does not say that. it does say that you have to preclear with Chorus *when you are using Chorus funds or resources to make that content* which seems pretty reasonable to me tbh

right, but: "According to copies of the contract viewed by WIRED, creators in the program must funnel all bookings with lawmakers and political leaders through Chorus." that's an example of something that seems to be in material dispute