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I believe in the Oxford comma, as much as I believe in serial killers, rotator cuff injuries and spontaneous diarrhea, none of which I also want in my life

Athena Scalzi@athenascalzi.com

Big talk from a guy who doesn’t believe in the Oxford comma, I don’t wanna hear NOTHIN grammatical from you

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Punctuation reflects speech patterns. If your speech includes a pause before the last list item, write a comma when you write it. If not, not. If it depends on context when you speak, let it do so when you write. It's wise to observe patterns in language. It's foolish to impose rules on language.

One of the first things I learned to do as an actor reading scripts was to mark out all of the commas, and put in my own. Nobody talks the way most writers dialogue, even good dialogue writers. It's why people love/hate Aaron Sorkin stuff.

We were instructed way back when punctuation was taught as a separate subject that you do not use the comma. The use of "and" ends the list so no comma is required. But over time I've come to use it here and there. It's time to be consistent again and use what I was taught.

In German: If it is an enumeration , we would use commas in this sentence: Auf der Geburtstagsfeier meines Freundes waren zwei Stripper, seine Ehefrau und seine Schwester.

If it was a specification, we would use a colon: Auf der Geburtstagsfeier meines Freundes waren zwei Stripper: seine Ehefrau und seine Schwester. No need for weird Oxford commas.

And if said friend is a Targaryen the sentence could also be: Auf der Geburtstagsfeier meines Freundes war eine Stripperin: seine Ehefrau und seine Schwester.

An actual writer can construct the sentence multiple ways that don't easily confuse pedants and children who never learned to diagram a sentence.

The Oxford Comma is NOT OPTIONAL. I will never understand why anyone denies the necessity and correctness of the Oxford Comma. There's no justifiable reason for leaving it out. It's 100% logical, reasonable, rational, and meaningful.

I don't understand why anybody would resist using the serial comma. What, are you going to exhaust your lifetime allotment of commas? But I guess that's what happens when you give people a choice. The grammar teacher's core ethic is simple: There are rules. I know them. You have no choices.

But how does one differentiate when one of the items in the list already has an "and" in it? And if it stands for "and," then why not just use a comma after the last item, instead of using "and?"

You write the sentence carefully so that if read out it's also clear And also remember that the colon exists and should be used within sentences when useful Even the Oxford style guide says it's better to rewrite a sentence than require a serial comma

You can translate punctuation marks as words, but that's a translation. Once in a while omitting the comma creates confusion. Careful writers who don't like it notice and avoid the confusion. (Scalzi, I assume) Guess who is not a careful writer? AI. There's still room for art.

I… MAY have lost a job opportunity due to my impassioned rejection of the Oxford comma. Worth it. Wouldn’t want to work with a bunch of wrong folks anyway!