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Number of people who go bankrupt every year because of medical bills or illness-related work loss: ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ 0 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ 0 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ 0 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ธ 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 0 ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 0 ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ด 0 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น 0 ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ 0 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 0 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 0 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 530,000 Thereโ€™s a lesson there.

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Had a wry smile the other day when some redneck American on a car forum said "So how is that free health care working out for ya? Is it really worth the trade off?" when comparing fuel prices in the USA to overseas All I could think was what a fucking nob head, fuel taxes don't pay for healthcare

Nah. It's free in Australia. Would be hard to go broke on dental. But if you go private you still pay all sorts of bills as well. You will get seen faster, that's all. But you won't die of cancer on a waiting list. Or go broke. Our ambulance system, bed and health worker shortage is the threat.

In Sweden at any rate we simply don't have medical bills in that sense. There are some small hospital attendance fees, and prescriptions are not free for most people, but prices are heavily capped. No illness of any kind, including major surgery and long post-op recovery in hospital, will cost you

more than a couple of hundred dollars in total. Of course, if your ill health leaves you seriously disabled, so that you can't work, that may impact your financial well-being. How could it not? But you won't be left to starve.

In "The Pitt" series, they show the case of a worker who had two jobs. Because of that configuration, he was not eligible for medicare. He had health issues, was already in debt, and refused to stay in the hospital because he simply could not afford it. He then tried to kill himself.

Is that similar to the number of guns a US citizen is allowed to own, in line with whatever ammendment is in vogue this week. ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฒโœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿ—ฝ

Someone should tell the lady I spoke with last week who lost her job and housing after getting cancer in Canada. Disability supports don't allow for people to stay in their homes and she'll likely be dead before a spot comes up on the BC housing list.

Decades on, Australians need reminding it didn't just magically happen. The Right fought hard against Labor's efforts to deliver free health care in 1975. Led by Labor's Gough Whitlam, finally delivered by PM Bob Hawke in the 80s. It was a fight. Labor won. Take nothing for granted.

Illness related work loss? I wish Canada was perfect with a goose egg, but that's sadly inaccurate. Of course universal Healthcare here is important, but it doesn't cover eyes, ears, or teeth (for most people), and disability can lead to poverty very easily.

It's not misleading. Talk to poor people who choose between being able to see, or going to the dentist. If it weren't for Singh's NDP twisting Trudeau's arm, dental care wouldn't be covered for adults without enough income.

Just to be fair, a couple of thousand people in the UK alone die waiting for treatment, called avoidable deaths. I donโ€™t know what the answer is but not everything is what it seems. Our medical system is a mess, but it has its good points.

Itโ€™s a mess because the conservatives want to privatize it and wonโ€™t fund it properly just like in Canada. We have liberal federal government that doles out money to provinces and once conservative premiers get their mits on the money they squander it

EXTRAORDINARY ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ USA really doesnโ€™t care for its citizens and their health. This all falls on FASCIST REPUBLICANS for always denying healthcare. USA SHOULD HAVE MEDICARE FOR ALLโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธ

I start radiation next month. I pay $5k for coverage and then I have $4600 out of pocket. This is BCBS ppo. Mac n cheese for dinners for a while

I donโ€™t know about the other countries but at least for Germany this isnโ€™t true. Losing work due to illness drives people into destitution here as well. Using the technicality that they do not declare bankruptcy does the people suffering under capitalism a disservice

The stats were for bankruptcy caused by medical repayment debts, not stats on ill health being massively shitty and diminishing or evaporating earnings. Those effects of ill health also apply in the US, along with the highest medical costs in the developed world and all the bankruptcies.

My husband just had an emergency medical procedure/operation to save his lifeโ€”we anticipate that the total cost (includingTWO neuro vascular surgeons) will be northward of $250K. Thankfully, we have great insurance, but how would someone with no or shitty coverage be able the have this procedure?!?!

Read my bio: Iโ€™m a German citizen, so I should know what good social care system means. And yet, itโ€™s not working equally for everyone. Not as terrible as in the US, certainly, but not perfect, either.

Hardly anyone seriously believed Trump would do something good for the world, but he actually had a chance to be historic and remembered as the American who liberated the Iranians from the crazy clerics in Tehran and Qom. He fucked up.

Australia here: Six months ago, a family member got 3rd degree burns to her hand, which meant specialist consults, bandages, creams, maybe skin grafts, other follow up. All better, all free. But they were always out of coffee in the waiting room. Tea, sugar, milk, but never coffee. How dare they? !๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝโ€โ™€๏ธ

If they didn't have wealth they might. Whatโ€™s also interesting is that no high-income country that has universal health care has ever gotten rid of it in favour of a fully private system. Once itโ€™s in place, it tends to stick--the debate is usually about how to improve it, not whether to scrap it.

Oh they have been trying in the UK to get rid of it by stealth for 20 years and have managed to degrade it a lot in that time but it is hard to fully attack such a universally loved service in public.

There's also a faction in Canada that's trying to undermine our universal healthcare system in favour of dirty $$ from US private health providers.

Every single person in the UK has a story about a time the NHS was there for them when they or a friend or family member was in need and they didnโ€™t once have to stop to think how will we afford this.

In the meantime they underfund it massively (so they can say look how bad it is!) & outsource bits to private sector to suck out public money. I can see how much worse it is since 20 years ago. Used to walk in and been seen within a couple of hours. Now it's a stuggle to get an appointment.

Let's be 100% honest here. We could do better, in Canada specifically, by covering dental care, vision care, pediatry, and prescriptions. Like Tommy Douglas originally intended.

We gave Europe the Marshall Plan. Europe tried to pay it back (many times over), with dozens of massive, long-term case studies on how to provide health care and secondary education in free and democratic societies. Look in the mirror for once, America. If anyone lacks gratitude, it is we.

I suspect you would find a similar disparity in the number of people who die from curable diseases because they can't afford the medical care.

The funny thing is folks in the US do not believe these figures, that it is normal to go bankrupt when you need medical help except when you have a lot of money of course. And if you are rich you can get the best available treatment. Just normal.

While I understand the point you are trying to make, itโ€™s worth noting that the German system for care for the elderly is incredibly well optimized to draw peopleโ€˜s life savings including real estate down to zero and for the rest to come out of welfare programs.

Half of this country prefers their own bankruptcy to letting Gay people and Black people have equal rights, and Latinos and Muslims and Jewish people, the list goes on and on and on and on. Hell they elected, allegedly, this piece of shit cause they were afraid 5 or 6 Trans athletes could compete

I run a free medical clinic and late night outreach health care on the pavement for the homeless, all funded by the government The public health system is hard on the homeless. We catch disease early, provide meds, or do a supported referral to hospital. Saves lives and money when caught early.

I just skip it I use online docs, fly to Mexico, Thailand, etc. for surgeries. Order meds from a generic in India. I have saved a ton of money (couldn't afford the insurance/deductible), my health has improved in a big way. Recent shingles- diagnosis was $24 - meds (2) about $28 / delivered.

UK here. Friend's niece was born with seriously underdeveloped lungs. Months of ICU, years of treatment. Costs to the family: whatever they put in the sweet dispenser at the hospital. No, we're not cunts who only pay for cheap cases.

What's weird is that USians call taxpayer funded care "communism", but the U.S. already has taxpayer funded healthcare. It's called Medicare and citizens aged 65+ are covered. What if the age was lowered to 60? How about 40? How about zero? At what point does it suddenly become communism? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Oh, believe me, it *was* called communism when it was proposed, & got through only bc of Lyndon Johnson's strength & skill at pushing legislation. Rs and drs fought it hard. The very conservative Rs still hate it & want to kill it. They'll try again soon.

Democrats must adopt universal healthcare as a policy platform. Every Democrat should pledge that theyโ€™ll implement universal healthcare the day they take the majority and be ready to do so. Expand Medicaid to all uninsured and opening Medicare to all ages would be a great bridge.

โ€ฆthis is not factually correct; figures for Canada, Australia and UK are far from zero; most EU countries + Japan have national health systems and social support systems that lead to near zero insolvencies strictly due to medical billsโ€ฆ if you want to make a statement, be factually correct