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Canada is refusing to issue ISBNs to books primarily generated with AI. This illustrates both the urgency of the problem of the growing flood of slop books, and also the toothlessness of addressing it on the honor system without there also being consequences for lying

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The tool definitely has its uses. Using AI as a technical middleware tool to compile and organize vast research data for a policy whitepaper or structural project is highly efficient. But relying on it to auto-generate a book is completely different—that just floods the system with unearned slop.

If it's a bad book it's a bad book. If it's a good book it's a good book. It doesn't make any difference whether it was written by a human or not.

You judge a book by how much human labor time it took to write it? I bet you could find a really bad book that took somebody a really long time to write. I prefer to judge a book by its content rather than the sweat of its author.

Yes, I do. Even a bad book written by human contains human thoughts, ideas, concepts, emotions. There is something there worth engaging with. A book generated by machine has none of those things. Sure, it’s full of words. But those words have all the meaning of a parrot going “Polly want a cracker.”

Wrong, so very wrong. A piece of crap written by a plagiarizing, probabilistic word-salad clanker is not and will never be worthwhile. Art has intent and purpose. It is communication from functioning mind to other functioning minds. AI is the biggest cultural and intellectual dead-end ever.

no, because if it's a good book, it was generated based on the work of uncompensated good authors. and if it's a bad book, it was generated based on the work of uncompensated hacks. either way, it's a form of theft.

the best an ai "author" should get is free epub distribution. if your work is essentially stolen, you shouldn't be allowed to profit from it.

The support for Carney in this country is proof positive that at least two thirds of the jagoffs the live here are unconcerned with the actual action so long as the words sound good enough.

AI companies are buying up, ingesting, & subsequently destroying tonnes of books; they're buying by ISBN. AI-generated books will (by dint of being ineligible for ISBN due to their status as AI-generated) be immune to this doom. This is something to ponder.

sadly it's probably going to be similar with this interaction with the US copyright office bsky.app/profile/ceci...

Cecilia Tan@ceciliatan.com

Today, almost 6 months after publication, I get an email from the copyright office saying they can't proceed with this copyright registration. Why? Because they detected that some of the text in the book was generated by AI. (Spoiler: zero percent of the book was generated by AI.)

Lying to a government agency in Canada is NOT a good idea so it does have a little tooth to it, IMHO. (speaking as an accountant in Canada who has seen lying to government agencies go VERY badly)

I do agree with you that the honour system is a poor way to do this, we Canadians are very attached to the honour system and the consequences can be steep. Often, you lose eligibility for tax credits, various government services like EI, basically a gov’t blackball extending to your whole life.

We DO have the government funds to follow up on any breaking of the honor system though. It is part of what our tax dollars pay for. And the loss of eligibility for tax credits, EI, etc. usually more than pays back any investigation costs. Plus people WILL likely report these AI books.

Well... just off the top of my head (and this is, admittedly, a bit out of my wheelhouse), it will make the PLR fraud cases easier to win because I'd bet my business reputation these AI entities are going after that source of writing funds in Canada.

Defrauding the Canadian Government is usually a serious criminal offense. And it would likely cascade. The government will be all up in your business.

An honor system only filters out the honest. ISBNs were a provenance signal, and once the lie is free the signal's worthless. Enforcement isn't red tape here — it's the product.

ISBNs in Canada are bulk purchased by Library and Archives Canada and distributed free to publishers (and self-publishers) who meet Canadian content requirements. Lying on the LAC form to get a free ISBN constitutes fraud (as people e.g. pretending to be Canadian have found out).

Most AI slop doesn't even have an ISBN, tons of it is ebook-only KDP uploads that skip ISBNs entirely. Canada's rule only catches books trying to look legit, not the actual flood.