Sunder Katwala (sundersays)

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)

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Director of @britishfuture.bsky.social Author How to be a Patriot https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/how-to-be-a-patriot-why-love-of-country-can-end-our-very-british-culture-war-sunder-katwala?variant=40518936559694 Evertonian

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Reform's main response will be to try to increase the salience of immigration. (The Cons want to increase the salience of the economy, to help them lead Reform, but want to challenge the govt on immigration, boats, ILR). Reopening Brexit arguments may help Labour & Reform, much more than the Cons

YouGov@yougov.co.uk

Reform UK's 20% vote share in our latest voting intention (25-26 October 2026) is the lowest recorded for the party since our tracker restarted in January 2025 yougov.com/en-gb/articl...

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Reform's main response will be to try to increase the salience of immigration. (The Cons want to increase the salience of the economy, to help them lead Reform, but want to challenge the govt on immigration, boats, ILR). Reopening Brexit arguments may help Labour & Reform, much more than the Cons

YouGov@yougov.co.uk

Reform UK's 20% vote share in our latest voting intention (25-26 October 2026) is the lowest recorded for the party since our tracker restarted in January 2025 yougov.com/en-gb/articl...

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The Conservative policy - oppose & pledge to reverse all moves to deepen cooperation - is a significant danger to the Badenoch strategy of how to go past Reform with economy-focused middle-class Conservative voters bsky.app/profile/sund...

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Conservatives have challenges here - given general public opinion, Conservative opinion being mixed + pragmatic, and electoral challenges from Reform, and target seats they need to take back from LDs Youth mobility is popular with the public - including Reform voters - and esp Conservatives

There is zero media attention to what Cons voters think about post-Brexit choices, where they reflect media public opiniom yet are presemted as diehards just because they mostly wanted to respect the result + get it over with & move on in 2019 bsky.app/profile/sund...

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Conservative deputy leader Alex Burghart pledges to reverse all UK-EU cooperation But Tory voters are much softer/more mixed than this Youth mobility: 57% Cons support, 15% oppose Closer trade links: 62% Cons support Closer defence links: 61% Cons support 39% would rejoin! (46% stay out)

Reform's main response will be to try to increase the salience of immigration. (The Cons want to increase the salience of the economy, to help them lead Reform, but want to challenge the govt on immigration, boats, ILR). Reopening Brexit arguments may help Labour & Reform, much more than the Cons

YouGov@yougov.co.uk

Reform UK's 20% vote share in our latest voting intention (25-26 October 2026) is the lowest recorded for the party since our tracker restarted in January 2025 yougov.com/en-gb/articl...

While salience of immigration is important to Reform support, it may be that a dip in Reform generally (competence, boundaries on racism, credibility as a contender for power) mitigates immigration salience (esp if Reform goes harder & harder on deportations + remigration to compete with Restore)

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All 450 million people having the right in theory to live + work here would be a challenge if they all did at once. If there was nobody left in France/Germany, tricky for exporters too! A countervailing risk is that *everybody* could leave the UK for eg Spain - so we had no population ourselves

The final polls in Israel have Netanyahu & Likud's bloc slightly behind, but neither on course to secure a majority (with the opposition against coalition with the nonaligned Arab parties)

Owen Winter@owenwntr.bsky.social

Our final poll tracker in Israel has Likud down 11 seats since 2022 but the opposition (excl Arab parties) short of a majority www.economist.com/interactive/...

The Democrats routing Trump would make then a party of past grievances rather than forward-looking optimism. They could have been better off losing this one to Trump than defeating him comprehensively, opines Justin Webb of the BBC

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Webb says his D friends relieved at Trump 2024 win "Even Democrat-supporting friends of mine in the city seemed somehow relieved. Their own party would get a kick up the backside and if Trump could end illegal immigration, reduce inflation and combat woke universities, hey, maybe it's not all bad?"

The piece does explain loss of Latino support (violent mass deportations are unpopular) and rural disillusion (inflation, gas) "True he has effectively closed the border but he followed it up with an unpopular and occasionally violent crackdown on immigrants living blameless lives inside the US".

The Democrats routing Trump would make then a party of past grievances rather than forward-looking optimism. They could have been better off losing this one to Trump than defeating him comprehensively, opines Justin Webb of the BBC

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Of course, all 7.4mn of the population of Ireland *already* have the right to freely move into and work in the UK. Technically, there's nothing stopping all 7.4mn forming a giant host and moving from UK town to town - village to village - exploding every building from the pressure of their bodies.

I feel this was reasonably well understood by 2014-16, with regards to eg Polish accession. The 2030s question is whether or not control over European study + work migration is something to keep (cooperating from more distance) or whether, if wanted to be closer on trade, defence, this is manageable

He is referring to this finding. It is certainly v possible that social + political cues could reduce support on the right (but, similarly, may reinforce it among progressives). It is also that voters didn't expect to give anything much up to get control of EU migration bsky.app/profile/sund...

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)@sundersays.bsky.social

Attitudes in 2026 to free movement, to secure single market membership General public: 48-30 support (+18) Labour: 67-20 support (+47) LibDems: 65-21 support (+44) Green 64-20 support (+44) Conservatives 47-40 support (+7) (!) Reform: 39-46 opposed (-7) @britishfuture.bsky.social June 2026

One of the least understood things about immigration policy is that the government can make changes on this scale without any vote at all. Chris Philp is offering the Home Secretary the votes of the Opposition to vote her original policy through unamended - but PM and Cabinet will surely change it

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That response was on March 7th 2026. It is an own goal for ministers have produced this eye-catching but misleading number to defend the government's policy, from critics, before now conceding the policy being challenged - so that the eye-catching but misleading number is used against the govt

One of the least understood things about immigration policy is that the government can make changes on this scale without any vote at all. Chris Philp is offering the Home Secretary the votes of the Opposition to vote her original policy through unamended - but PM and Cabinet will surely change it

Home Office press office: "The speech doesn’t say the policy will deliver £10bn in savings. It says the status quo will cost £10bn" before quoting the bit of the speech that says the policy will deliver £10 bn in savings! "If we do not, we will see a £10 billion pound drain on our public finances…”

The UK is holding talks with the EU to inform the government outlining future options/scenarios about the next decade. For example, using diplomatic channels to check UK understands that EU sees free movement is part of the single market + full EU membership! www.thetimes.com/article/4ef6...

thetimes.comUK holding talks with EU about return to free movementSources confirm ‘the conversation is happening’ before Andy Burnham meets bloc leaders in Brussels in November
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£4 billion in fees in 2024 forecast (net migration 350k; immig around 1m) Reform project visa fees to *increase* by £1.3 billion 2027/28, £2.6 billion 2028/29 + £3.64bn 2029/30, £3.6 bn 2030/31 and £3.4 bn in 2031/32 with zero net migration (immigration halved to 500k) + mass deportations

"Increased immigration fees" rise from £1.38 billion to £3.5 billion (despite the policy to have zero net migration) while the migrant workers levy raises £7 billion/year - £28 billion/4 years - despite party saying it will lead to migrants not being hired, and having to leave.

Alex Chalk KC will lead a rapid independent review into the murder of Henry Nowak in two parts: the history of the offender + the handling of the crime scene. Chalk was Lord Chancellor 2023-24 (having been a Conservative MP in Cheltenham, 2015-24) www.gov.uk/government/n...

gov.ukHome Secretary announces independent review into the murder of Henry NowakThe review will examine whether opportunities were missed to prevent Henry Nowak’s murder and how the Nowak family were treated in the aftermath.

A government u-turn on indefinite leave to remain would certainly not cost £10 billion - since the proposals would not have saved 90%+ of this figure. However, it is now a headache for the government that the Home Secretary made that claim in March. They should produce the real numbers

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There is a much smaller fiscal cost of the settlement proposals than was suggested (maybe £600m-£1bn in next decade) but Home Office has stonewalled MP and Peer questions for the actual saving. There is a much bigger fiscal cost of the net migration reduction than that. bsky.app/profile/sund...

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)@sundersays.bsky.social

Ironic Home Sec argues those oppose her settlement reforms must say how they would meet the fiscal costs 1. this £10 billion is fictitious + misleading - it is a cost in 30 years time - her reforms don't save that cost. 2. Yet Govt finds £5.4 billion negative hit of its immigration White Paper

A government which had confidence in its arguments about fiscal impacts could surely give factual answers to straight factual questions bsky.app/profile/sund...

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)@sundersays.bsky.social

Stella Creasy asked 3 straight questions. - When do fiscal contributions + fiscal costs arise? - What impact does that have on the fiscal rules for 5 years? - How much would the proposed delay save (or not?) Was simply sent the £10 billion link, which appears irrelevant to these proposed reforms

A government u-turn on indefinite leave to remain would certainly not cost £10 billion - since the proposals would not have saved 90%+ of this figure. However, it is now a headache for the government that the Home Secretary made that claim in March. They should produce the real numbers

The Home Office told me at the time that the claim of a £10 billion "lifetime cost" (£9.5 billion) did not mean the Home Sec meant the government's proposals would save that £9.5 billion, but would not say what fiscal difference the government's proposals would make. bsky.app/profile/sund...

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)@sundersays.bsky.social

The Home Office told me 3 weeks ago, this is not a claim the reforms save this £10 billion [in 3 decades, not 3-5 years] but govt won't tell MPs & peers if there is a fiscal saving (or cost) & how much it is & when www.politico.eu/article/uk-l...

Delaying settlement by 5-10 years makes no lifetime savings of the costs at 30 years. Just a marginal saving (about 5-10% of the £9.5bn) in first 5-10 years. If all care workers forced to leave, that £9,5bn is saved but 30 years of offsetting contributions sacrificed bsky.app/profile/sund...

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)@sundersays.bsky.social

What govt have is the projection of a £9.5 billion lifetime cost (in 30 years time) if care workers stay for life (after they turn 65) This is just NOT a calculation of what govt policy saves by making them wait to 2036-40 not 2026-30 then stay for life. (That is obvs a v small number)

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Support your local cave and mountain rescue teams. (This is called ‘shoe-horning’ - but I don’t care).. And the RNLI.

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I'm in a cave rescue team. We maintain stocks of high energy food for cold/exhausted/hypothermic customers *. Meetings can be quite enjoyable when they reach expiry dates. * Excluding sheep and cows, we don't cater for them.

Recommended new half-term activities: supermarket trip with 15 year old to decide what to put in the stockpile shelf We did establish the 3 days rule was 'just in case' for storms, power cuts, or internet failures, etc - not because WW3 is about to break out. (Govt gives the vibe it may think that)

But we will have to eat the stockpiled digestives + shortbread, crisps + peanuts by the end of 2027. Perhaps this should become an annual family + national occasion when you eat some of it + restock to celebrate survival. (The 15 year old does not think the rice pudding should be involved though)

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Looking for to this evening’s discussion of England and St George’s Day

Sunder Katwala (sundersays)@sundersays.bsky.social

26th October: the Bishop of Leicester will host a webinar involving myself, Chine of Theos, John Denham to inform how the Church of England can think about England + to how to mark St George's Day. Those outside the Church are welcome to attend the online event too www.eventbrite.com/e/how-st-geo...

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26th October: the Bishop of Leicester will host a webinar involving myself, Chine of Theos, John Denham to inform how the Church of England can think about England + to how to mark St George's Day. Those outside the Church are welcome to attend the online event too www.eventbrite.com/e/how-st-geo...

eventbrite.comHow St George's Day Can Bring Us TogetherA free webinar for church leaders on marking St George's Day as a moment of belonging, shared pride, and faith.