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I don't know their names. But I know exactly who they are. A pilot and a WSO are on the ground in Iran today. I wrote about what that means — and why America doesn't leave its people behind. open.substack.com/pub/adamkinz...

open.substack.comOne of Ours Is Down in Iran. Here’s What That Really Means.As a former Air Force pilot, I can tell you: we trained for this exact moment. And right now, America is doing what it does better than anyone on earth.

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Too bad that 90% of Air Force kernel pilots are Trumpanzees. And very far right. It’s a disgrace as they are. Zero respect for them. Zero.

Not "one of mine." If you are participating in the attacks in Iran, you are following the illegal orders of a criminal. Your allegiance is to the Constitution.

Never forget, the FIVE TIME DRAFT DODGER belittled & insulted John McCain, who was held for yrs & tortured in a the Hanoi Hilton. Trump couldn't survive 8 seconds of memory that McCainb actually endured for yrs. It's bad to risk lives for oil. It's worse to risk lives for a panicked pedophile.

except for the minor detail that they shouldn't have been there at all. I don't expect a lot of sympathy will be shown, after they've bombed hundreds of hospitals and schools and done double tap strikes... Where is the refusal to carry out illegal orders?

So troops on the ground next? This incompetent government goes from we won to almost done to now planes shot down and the location of those on board ..unknown!

POTUS would say “pilots are losers cause they got shutdown…would not have happemed have i been a pilot…i’ma a great pilot..best pilot…pilot airforce has never seen before…”

Trump would leave them behind, because he does not care about them. American lives mean nothing to him. He is incapable of compassion and empathy.

We should never leave any of our troops behind but we shouldn't even be in this position to begin with. If they're foundd by Iranians are the going to be POW'S & will Iran follow the Geneva convention or will they do like felon47 would order?

And😢 if they get caught? “They’re just losers” 😰 And all THIS as ‘Christians’ recall the passion of Jesus; beaten, stripped, & nailed to a wooden cross where he eventually voices our collective soul-WHY have you forsaken me 😳😱

I hope so, Adam. I hope everything you've mentioned is still in place. I hope the people who need to be there are there. I hope all these guys and gals (if) got every bit of training and prep that you did or better.

Meanwhile we have POS who could care less about our soldiers, starting wars with no goals beyond making his little balls tingle. Then we have drunk Fox News bobble head leading our military, calling on troops to commit war crimes, leaving them open for our adversaries to commit war crimes on them.

Even a transactional moron without a scintilla of empathy in their body knows bombing schools and orphanages make this scenario even more dangerous for downed aircrew if captured. This policy of 'no mercy' Hegseth pushes can get our own people killed and makes the work of rescue more difficult.

I hope these service members get home alive. I hope no more are shot down. I don't have a lot of faith in those leading our military or those who will be doing the negotiating to get any Americans taken hostage released. I also don't think we're being told the truth about Iran's "lack" of firepower

Nightmare scenario all around. If they are captured, god only knows what the days and weeks ahead mean. If they are able to remain in hiding, their days and weeks ahead are going to be more difficult than we can imagine.

Iranian officials have instructed local populations, especially in rural or mountainous areas, to search for and capture enemy pilots. If captured by military or military intelligence, they could be tortured, physically or psychologically, or both, or summarily executed. God help them.

I've read this several times and want to say how much I appreciate you sharing it. Everyone should read, absorb it and be reminded that "war" is not a f'n video game. These service people are in a critical situation. Prayers for our troops and their families.Thanks for your service too, Adam!

Act like the USA is so virtuous when it’s really trying to stop Iran from gaining a very big bargaining chip by holding the pilot and wso as prisoners of war. Iran government telling people not to harm them because they want to do it themselves.

Given that 80% of the population does not support the evil regime, I doubt that the population is looking that hard. Those who are looking are more likely to protect them than turn them over.

Key Trump officials were surprised by the barrage of retaliatory attacks Tehran launched against U.S. and Israeli targets across the region, including in countries long assumed to be off-limits: Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar. They under estimated Iran.

Kinzinger: “And right now, America is doing what it does better than anyone on earth.” You mean put service members in danger in an illegal, undeclared war with no strategic objectives or plan for its resolution?

I appreciate that view and believe it is largely true. Though we left plenty of our Afghan allies who worked with the US military behind - and I have read that our current seditious regime has deported some who managed to make it to the US.

God speed to these pilots and those rescuing them. It speaks highly of our military that so much work goes into search and rescue. I can't ignore the politics behind this, though. They never should have been put in this situation in the first place. I just hope they are not lost in this debacle.

I was made to believe by congress people like yourself that our fighter pilots and equipment were top of the line - more have crash/shot down in this admin than sinnce last REpublican war monger. So why are they even being shot down, technologically? And why if they aren't doing anything illegal?

Adam: Direct question, is there anyway to detect and defend against missiles directed at aircraft by infrared? ABC reported that’s the targeting system used to down the F-15E and the A-10 warthog. I’m not aware of any countermeasures for that tracking, are you?

Nope, I don’t think that would work. The chaff you are referring to is more for a heat seeking missile. The infrared cameras are being used to target 🎯 the aircraft, and there is no way to detect when they have your aircraft in sights. It’s a problem.

Question was “any way to defend..” answer is flares…plus maneuver. This can work against many detection/trackers, including missile seekers. IR tracking is decades old. It’s not a surprise they are using it. And I am not denying this is a problem to solve. Just answering a question from experience.

flares.plusflares.plus

It's easy for Trump to be cavalier about shot down war planes and helicopters when those at-risk pilots are not his kids. He is safe in his fortress in D.C. & MaraLago. Just like developer who overruns the bill then leaves other people to pay it.

Our intent and actions are to leave no one behind, but we aren't perfect. Bragging and bloviating don't help. I will be hoping for the best outcome, a good friends remains were repatriated decades after he crashed, but the promise took time to fulfill. Vietnam Pilot DFC, five Air Medals, and others

Let us be clear. They are there because of America’s imperialist hegemonic attitude and a war which shou never been initiated and fought. The fucking blame lies directly at the balls of the felon4547. Nothing more nothing less

It’s almost as if this very unfortunate scenario wasn’t entirely predictable by the USA’s ‘I need more time to escape the pointless & ridiculous ‘war’ of choice’ I created Commander in diapers’ 😞👎

Adam, you know the rules no longer exist. This clown doesn’t give a shit about a downed pilot. He doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself. So, how do we solve this problem? For me, there is only one solution.

Remember Eagle Claw? Remember Black Hawk Down? Normally I would support the USA but, i am sorry AK tired of seeing Muslim lives being considered as colleteral dammage by the USA and Israel. May Allah be mercyfull for the crew. I DONOT support the Iranian regime either.

I despise trump and hegseth and believe they are giving illegal orders in an illegal war.I do not despise military personnel who believe their duty is to follow orders not interpret their legality.My.fellow Americans put a monster in office.This is what I cannot reconcile.

Congress, at least the Republicans are as corrupt and complicit as Trump. Why do you think that apart from Trumps master Netanyahu that there’s not a single NATO country and others that have refused to help?

Fuck em. What was their mission? Murdering school girls? Targeting a water plant? Executing rescue workers? They made a choice to be murderers and attack a sovsreign nation and didn't have the balls or conscience to say no.

Depends. Weakening of the old US? No. Weakening of a US that has surrendered to a bunch of magalomaniacs? It's in the interest of every single person not outside the US. What to hope for depends on whether one believes the US can still be salvaged or not.

America before trump didnt leave people behind. Trumps america could care less. A drunk is making military decisions. A pedophile is destroying the world. A congressional majority is more focused on protecting a pedophile than the constitution.