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I see these menz wanting bacon, sausage, eggs, pancakes, potatoes, and toast cooked for them every morning, and wonder if they've considered that their appetites are a self-solving problem. āš°ļø FFS, just get a cup of instant oatmeal or yogurt and some fruit for a change. Your arteries will thank you.

"A man can do that, but if that's the case, then he has no use for you if you're not willing to take certain burdens away from a man, he won't be with you. He will just find another." Some men just aren't lonely enough. šŸ™„

The thing is these guys wouldn't even be happy in the "trad" world they imagine. They'd be the drunken and abusive wastes that inspired temperance and second wave feminism. Miserable and miserable to be around, but hey, at least that dinner you probably won't even enjoy is on the table at 6:00.

The view that women are supposed to do all the household labour and emotional labour as well as working full time is no longer successful now that women can have a bank account, vote, own property, etc. they no longer have to tolerate this from other adults.

Ok, I admit, my husband gets up at 6 am, feeds the dogs and the kids. But if he didn’t, I wouldn’t leave him. These guys think the only reason to get married is to get a free cook and maId. So one-dimensional. No wonder they can’t find women who want to be with them.

These guys always make a big deal out of frying some eggs in the morning or meal prepping. Jesus Christ, it doesn't take THAT much effort to dice chicken and make some pasta or rice. Like grow up and shut up already, man.

Also the trad-wife and trad-husband lifestyle will remain a dead way of life because women leaving the work force would 1, reveal how useless men can be in the work force and 2, be bad for the stock which is the one thing that matters to our oligarchs above all.

And outside of the rich and upper middle class, marriage was long this. An economic partnership where each helped the other. Both often worked outside the home if they weren’t farmers. Both worked in the home. Modern marriage should be an equal partnership, with each taking on much of the burden.

My parents were married for 67 years. My mom stayed home. And if my dad ever said anything remotely like this, much less indicated he thought like this idiot, my mom would’ve knocked him into next week. I don’t think it has anything to do with socioeconomic class.

I just meant that women in fact worked outside the home (or did piecework in the home) quite often. Certainly, you had marriages of mutual respect and partnership where the wife stayed home. My paternal grandparents fit that bill.

For a long time being in charge of the domestic sphere also meant controlling the purse strings, so they better also be prepared to hand over like 80-90% of their paychecks for the upkeep of the home and family

Nah, Aubry, he won’t give her a house… or a garden. If he could afford all that, he would only bury her on his golf course.

Apparently it's not so easy to "just find another" if these guys are making posts about how women won't just cater to them.

right? i have ME/CFS, which means i have no energy, ever, and definitely can’t cook. i live alone and still manage to eat a gluten-free vegan diet. like, with the slightest bit of creativity/planning and suuuuuuuuuper minimal effort, you can feed yourself

Feeding myself has never been an issue. Now feeding my wife and both kids on the other hand.. Two vegetarians and incompatible pickiness leaves me with about 5-6 things everyone will eat. I feel like I’m running a restaurant. A crappy restaurant that serves Dominos, mac&cheese and frozen waffles.

ā€œSet up for her to continue her lifestyle when you dieā€ is the jagged-edged rusty metal hole in the tradwife plot. It’s never been an option, it isn’t an option today, and it’s why I find the concept of tradwifery disturbing.

At one point, there was a thing called a pension and most continued on for the spouse. Ford ironically still has one. If my mom had outlived my dad she would have not lost a penny of income. Not that I am a huge trad wife person (nor was my mom, or grandmothers).

You know I don’t actually know the numbers on those. My pre-judgement as a millennial is that I even at their height they weren’t enough to live on and only applied if you survived to extreme old age but that’s not based on anything solid, just pessimistic hearsay. Same with life insurance.

I feel that. I will say my aunt is still doing pretty ok on her widow pension from Ford today. She isnt living high but as most blue collar folks never did back in the day. I am elder millennial so I know it exists but the day of it... not for us.

As the wife or the husband, why would I trust that the two people I acted about (me and s/he) trust fate or some shyster insurance with a system of learned helplessness? And if my partner’s fate isn’t a key priority to me what the hell am I even doing?

It's like wildboy is so close to getting it, but still missing. All this "Why can't women just' bullshit is heavily rooted in the fact that so many women DON'T NEED MEN because so many men DON'T DO SHIT. Meanwhile, guys still try to use "I worked all day!" like it's 1650

My mom was, at the start a "trad wife" but, my Dad actually cooked dinner a lot. So, dude does know he has to manage the upkeep of the property, like fixing things, doing the yard work, and all the rest, right?