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ICE has only existed since 2003. A Bush-era creation, it is a militarized federal secret police that has been imbued with the Supreme Court with the unconstitutional power to ignore the fourth amendment. Abolishing it and salting the earth where it grew is the moderate stance.

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There is a lot of salting the earth that needs to happen. This and a gazillion other things cannot be excused. I won’t consider voting for anyone who doesn’t run on abolishing ICE and holding all accountable. Seriously accountable.

Except we need more than the slogan. ICE was created when INS was disbanded. Immigration enforcement isn’t going to end when ICE dies. We need to get rid of ICE AND figure out what replaces it. That requires immigration reform that recognizes that immigrants are central to our nation’s success.

No, the founders intended the second amendment more to ensure that they would always have militias that the federal government could call on, the 'resistance to tyranny' explanation was far less ubiquitous (at least that is my understanding)

To be clear, this is exactly what organizations like the NRA say the 2nd amendment is for. The long-standing conservative argument for it has been to physically and violently resist government overreach exactly like this. They won’t do that because ICE targets the people they hate, tbh.

I think Federalist No. 29 is the cite I'm looking for this, they believed that federal influence over state militas would reduce need for standing Federal army

Jenn S.@jenn-yyy.bsky.social

Time to join yr local ICE Rapid Response Network. ANYONE can help: RRNs have many needs & ways to plug in at whatever commitment level U can make. Find yr local RRN on-line or ask local immigrants' rights groups. None exists yet? Start yr own w/ just 2 othr ppl! Step-by-step guide here:

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Mort au Fascisme@maf78.bsky.social

The folks who convinced y'all that 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy were G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rudy Ghouliani et al. There was never an investigation, and it was used to drive us on the path to here w/ ramped up xenophobia, militarism, surveilance. It's worth another look. www.c-span.org/clip/white-h...

The current ICE “enforcement”/arrest/detention actions in cities are not border searches, and are most certainly governed by the Fourth Amendment. The fact that ICE is acting as if this were not so is not due to any ruling by the Supreme Court.

Just to point out: This wasn’t ICE, this was Customs & Border Patrol Who was sent in, because reportedly, ICE wasn’t willing to be as brutal as the Administration was demanding

I think “break up” would be a better term than “abolish” Abolish suggests it being totally disbanded Break up suggests units going back to focus on their original mission. Rather than being a large department with the ability to move funds away from vital operations, to funding an occupation force

I like to emphasize the ridiculousness of assuming ICE is necessary for governing by pointing out the ICE is younger than Shrek. If you can remember or imagine a world before Shrek, you can do the same for ICE.

dr. nate 🌴@ghostlen.in

abolish ICE defund any other dept or agency that collaborated with ICE ensure no former ICE agent, or collaborators dismissed via the defunding, could ever own a gun again blacklist all those above from any jobs or positions with direct oversight or interaction with the general public

The entire DHS was intended to be a fascist organization used against the American people. Return the Coast Guard to the Navy, and then abolish the entire DHS. It needs to go. It cannot be redeemed at all.

Dems had so many chances to absolish ICE but never did. the dems are constantly holding the ring at the edge of mount doom and then refusing to throw it in.

They need to be arrested. Immunity does not extend to cabinet members, appointees, employees, members of congress, or the senate. This is insane. The regime must be stopped. That goes for everyone in a position to stop them but who instead offers “aid and comfort”.