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It's just marketing copy to hide the moral/ethical problems of what AI is trained on and the real function of AI which is to try and create and corner a market that doesn't really exist yet.

AI is democratizing pictures. You can have (wierd smooth, poorly composed) pictures of anything you can type. And you can have it at enormous cost the planet made of data stolen from artists.

It’s not democratizing art at all. It is however watering it down and infiltrating what people understand as art.

Right. Always hated the word "talent" - bruh I drew & made stuff like crazy since I was basically toddler & lucky to even have "teachers" of a sort. & Now you see job postings for "talented prompter" — what?? Are they blessed by the Muses to type keywords & make selections or?

Ugly truth? It's a rather beautiful truth actually. There's virtue in discipline, perseverance and willpower.

For sure. And it’s incredibly satisfying to read something back and discover that it’s actually, maybe good. But it can be pretty grindy getting there.

It's literally never been easier to learn a new craft or skill - the only constraints are time and potentially money. Resorting to AI is just laziness, and you're doing this off the backs of people that have grafted and had their work stolen in order to fuel AI models.

Also even if “AI democratise art” it does it in very inefficient way, Blender Foundation have income of 2,5m€

This is one of the most accurate explanations I’ve seen.

maybe it's democratizing something, but it sure as hell ain't "Art". A real life human being's creative expression is "Art", a computer can only produce pretty pictures

I also just disagree with the entire premise. Using AI is not replicating the experience of being an artist it's replicating the experience of buying a comission. When you order a pizza for takeout you don't say you "made a pizza"

Thanks, I hate it!

It gets worse the longer you look. They didn't even bother to photoshop it.

And then you use a song that doesn't even use a sample for the main hook. Absolute hack shit.

Lately I find myself lacking the desire to pursue creative projects -- anything from painting to building a website -- when I know that there are dozens of AI tools out there (and plenty more to come) that can do the same work in seconds. I worry about what this means for the future of creativity.

“Art, like sex, is too important to leave to the professionals” ericbooth.net/the-everyday...

I've been lucky to join a great community the past year where people actually write and share their work and it feels so healthy and helpful to my growth. The problem is those groups are now harder to find since the internet has changed.

So, what's funny - and @punkey.bsky.social can back this up - is that none of this was meant to just be for anyone else. If I don't write this stuff out and do so in a way that communicates how I feel I will go insane

When I'm working as an editor, the first thing I ask writers when they send me a draft is if they've read it out loud. It's impossible to overstate how beneficial this is.

Oh, that's interesting. I can't believe I never thought of reading dialogue out loud. Thank you for the tip!

Our greatest artists are celebrated for their masterpieces. But those exist *only* because of the time and effort invested in thousands of other works, mistakes, even disasters.

in that sense it's all part of the ongoing campaign by employers to offload their training and professional development costs. they figure ai will be even cheaper than the relatively small share of taxes they pay for schools and colleges.

"AI is democratizing art" is also sorta implying that all the art being produced by unskilled people isn't actually art. As if a fun little doodle isn't actually drawing but some other, lesser thing

bsky.app/profile/sket...

Ultimately, some people do some things better than others. The concept of "democratizing" any field is dumb. Let's democratize medicine, law, construction. Maybe AI can write my journalisms, maybe it can take out my appendix, maybe it can build my house.

People always get seduced by the promise of no-effort shortcuts to fame, prestige, money, whatever. AI is just the latest snake oil in that series. In reality, nothing worth its salt ever comes by and endures the test of time without lots of elbow grease and the inherent growth process.

cooooooooooorrect

the funny thing to me is how common among people who have a skill like that, such as drawing or slight of hand, it is for them to have been in a situation where they were isolated for a bit which lead to them learning the skill. I learned how to draw after getting a surgery and being bored.

“Look what I found on the internet with a really well-worded Google Image search” is not and will never be art by any reasonable standard, except possibly as performance art. I’d accept a promptist standing in a plexiglass booth working with Midjourney as performance art.

As an artist: you don’t even need those. You can make art with essentially anything. But a pencil and paper, even lined not paper and a cheap HB pencil, are a great place to start.

Wait you were counting all your words

THANK YOU. I've argued with people over this who will look for all kind of excuses why ai is good actually and i had to keep myself from just yelling: yes, art is hard but anyone can do it. just sit your butt down and do it. do it badly, do it irregularly, idc, just do it with your own two hands

But also…we can’t do everything. I’m a decent writer and a decent artist and I cannot make music with reproducible accuracy at all. But that means I’m more likely to collab with others to fulfill visions. It’s GOOD to be in group projects re bringing arts to people. It’s communal.

Last week, I was attending a guest lecture by an artist about his work, and he brought up the devaluation of digital art caused by generators. I think “devaluating” is the word the techbros are looking for.

“I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself. I am utterly disgusted” - Hayao Miyazaki about AI IMHO creating art is the most human thing to do Of course people who aren’t internally motivated to behave humanely have no desire to create, only to brutalize and destroy

I truly believe that those people have never experienced somebody truly connecting with their work in a way that they're personally responsible for. One can say "Oh your software did this" but like, does that matter if you're the CEO?

"What did he do? He told people what to invent." -Bill Burr on Steve Jobs

Being old and washed has reinforced that almost everything in life really is just about doing the reps reps. Even little troll boys like Malcolm Gladwell was right about that one (no one knows the right number of hours though)

This should not be the trend of the use of AI. “Drivers” of Tesla autopilot are prone to accident for, you know, going autopilot and not checking or paying attention.

And I can go on with more but I am going to stop here, these three played a huge role when I became an Artist, and finally just think about this, I am a High School drop who is an Artist, what does that say about those who are trying to find the easy way (4.

“The art is the work” is an idea pro-AI seem to struggle with; they seem to latch onto the concept of “the idea is the art”. But what’s interesting is they also refuse to give weight to what actual artists say about it.

I think this is true of a lot of kids but creative work and art are quite discouraged in school and really in life. I think a lot more people would naturally be able to nurture skills doing things they enjoyed if those things weren’t so hard to keep doing into adult life under like. Capitalism

Sort of like how burgling someone's house is 'democratizing' their personal property.

I've been saying that Gen AI is just outsourcing "giving a fuck", because you truly need to care about something to practice it. But techbros don't care about anything, they want to call themselves writers and artists by doing nothing.

Add to that you're just stealing the combined learning and grafting of others.

Idk if I would say that people are already creative and that the study/work is only to get the skill/craft part. I think being creative is a skill in itself that can and must be honed and practiced. Some of the most skilled realism artists are also some of the least creative people in the art world

oh, absolutely. I just think that ChatGPT et. al kind of show a desperation by some to be creative, even if they don't know how, or why

it goes to what you said in another reply — truly getting good at any kind of craft (art, performance, etc.) requires a sort of brutal self-honesty and introspection that is probably not emotionally accessible to the people who are like this

yeah I think I could be a good writer - I’ve got some talent - but I do not have the reps to actually get there yet and I’d need to spend much more time practicing no real shortcuts

Under this analysis (which I agree with) AI is effectively preventing people from creating art because it stops them from putting in the work to create something. It alienates people from the entire artistic necessary process by skipping straight to the end.

Also, the folks posing that argument show their face because there are applications for using AI in order to *learn* some things about art, but you literally never hear them ever bring up any of those. They want to skip the learning, and they want to skip putting in the hours