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We should never forgive the democrats for allowing this to happen. Handing Trump power a second time just to protect Israel and billionaires. That is the legacy of this generation of Democratic leadership.

that’s like praising the Catholic church’s platform of “non-involvement” during WWII. Hiiiiiii inaction does nothing but help oppressors, are they new here

I get not liking Biden's support of genocide, but it was pretty clear that it wasn't going to stop with Trump, and possibly would be worse. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

Voting third party at the national level is not a viable option. There’s no infrastructure there to support a third party candidate. And even in multiparty democracies national elections (and even most local) turn into binaries.

No clue, and just don't care.

Moral purity is impossible but the purveyors of propaganda still love to exploit it

I think opposing genocide is an issue that it’s fine to be sanctimonious about

I recall posting several times that allowing Trump to return to the White House would make things worse for everyone, including Palestinians. I know you can guess how well that observation was received --- and how well it is still received today, after proving accurate.

Succinct 👌🏻

Preach on brotherman.

Oh I remind them all the time, & I won’t stop.

Truth

Like as a party Dems need an overhaul, and moving the ancients at the top that just want to crowd fund and sell us out from positions of power into advisory/support positions has to be the first step.

I don't think it's relevant. That's literally abuser logic. "I wouldn't have had to hit [democracy][starving people in Africa][the survival of the planet] if you hadn't made me so darned mad." It's legit to be extremely mad. Not legit to burn everything down over... things being burned down.

Pointing out that people ascribed power to US Presidents that they do not have is ‘heresy’ to you? You’re literally saying then that reality doesn’t matter.

Children in Mozambique are being left to die as a result of the sudden USAID cuts. Again, this was preventable, and the only thing these preening Internet sociopaths had to do to stop it was to hold their nose and vote for Harris. groundup.org.za/article/moza...

But since trump became president, Netanyahu knows he can get away with a lot more. Nothing has changed.

Not to minimize USAID cuts at all, am thinking of framing this horror in terms of USA withdrawing from pretty much ALL international commitments (i.e. RFK Jr's withdrawal from int'l vaccine compact)

Those people failed so many, from the deaths of kids because of USAID cuts, to the loss of rights for minorities and marginalized groups. And not to be a doomer, but all this misery has occurred within the first six months. Trump still has a lot of time left to hurt so many more people.

The goddamn trolley problem seems to have persuaded a lot of people that acting to reduce the amount of harm that's going to happen is the moral equivalent to causing maximum harm – and that idleness is innocence.

Murdering way more children in more places.

Abstaining is functionally the same as if ballots had a "whatever everyone else decides is fine by me" option that you filled in.

A lot of people who proudly say they didn't vote in 2024 are people who don't have family in Gaza. I am not directing my anger at people directly impacted by the Gaza genocide.

Online tracking tool counting deaths from el neon, liddle marco & diseased rapist donny’s US AID wood chipping 🧷

It’s actually conservative Dems who are the most likely not to show up to vote. Both leftists and mainstream liberals are wrong about who didn’t show up in 2024. Even if they both like to be very loud about it. www.thenation.com/article/poli...

RFK Jr is also hellbent on making the numbers of child deaths in Gaza and from cuts to USAID pale in comparison to the carnage he wants to implement worldwide with vaccines.

You’re part of the problem

Been hearing that shit since Gore.

If you refuse to vote, you implicitly voted for who won.

It's sort of difficult, because when you see what was happening in Gaza you can understand why some people felt that they couldn't vote for the Democrats, as that to them may show approval. It's not always enough to say we won't be as bad as these people. But yes, things are worse under the GOP.

Real live famished children. And their sisters and brothers.

Same folks who said there would be no difference in SCOTUS picks between Hillary & Trump. With this week’s release of horrible 6-3 decisions, do they have remorse? Nah, probably not.

But surely Kamala would have somehow done something worse??

Voters actually showed up. Non-voters couldn't be bothered to vote against Trump, so here he is again. How's that working out for the Gazans? How's that working out for the people who depended on the US for help?

It’s nice that you’re willing to admit you don’t give a fuck about hundreds of thousands of people dying as a result of USAID cuts - but we know what’s really important, getting to be right on the Internet.

⬆️⬆️ This a thousand times.

The lesser of the evils.

Yes, I will absolutely never forgive the protest voters.

I do think the people to get mad at are the politicians who turned off voters because opposing genocide was a bridge too far, not voters who (can we really say “myopically” here? Lol) thought genocide was a bridge too far.

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Right but the politics and policies that made and keep poor countries dependent on U.S. largesse, and the many, many evils enabled by that dependence, are fully bipartisan. Harrisbwkuld have been better, but she would have perpetuated the same systems that got us here.

If people couldn't see how destructive a second Trump term was going to be, they certainly had a whole first term from which to judge.

People who make it possible for the dem party to run pro genocide candidates in the first place should never feel morally superior regardless.

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God, what a fucked-up system we have.

Democrats couldn’t put Trump in jail now lots of people are dying, who can we blame? Non-voters!!!!

💯..there are 2 choices. Pick the best one

It reminds me a bit of whichever Catholic argument was going around against funding healthcare lest some of it go to birth control--the same prioritization of a sense of personal spiritual purity over widespread material improvement.

I’m not terribly happy with my dem congressional delegation but my other choice was KKKaroline Leavitt .. So don’t have the luxury of a purity vote. Pathetic Uneducated Foreign Op Excuses Jill Stein Voters= Mike Flynn Every Single Day 🧲

*unacceptable.

Dead people worldwide is a feature and not a bug for this administration.

You can read Kant, he lays out the argument pretty distinctively

The upcoming cuts to vaccines for children in Africa is enough to make me rage. Every mom in Africa would trade places with any anti-vax American mom in a heartbeat.

The felon voters and non voters are equally awful people. Shameful!

My voting policy now is "who is the least competent murderer". Not even the most likely to murder, but the one whose selfish, bloodthirsty policies will not lead to as much unnecessary death among the population, say by restricting health care or suppressing rights.

For a group of people that posted an awful lot of trolley problem memes in 2024, they’re not so good at understanding the core point of the trolley problem. That inaction is morally indistinguishable from action.

💯 They couldn't have been more naive.

She's better off than if she was president, that's for sure.

oh, i'm sure although i do subscribe to several tankie block lists

its quite astonishing. i also think it is important to put things in a historical context but i get really irritated with the blanket "it has always been this way" statements. like even so, tons more people are noticing so that is good thing? no, they suck bc they didn't notice before 🙄

1) what can we – the average citizen – do about it? 2) how many Americans care about the fate of children in Africa or India?

Exactly. Red votes, anti-Harris/“genocide-joe” protest votes, and not voting had horrendous consequences. May they come to understand their errors and speak out, protest, do better in 2026.

And may everyone of those deaths weight on their souls...