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I share your aversion to xenophobia, fascism and Musk, but how does your analysis fit with capitalists' traditional interest in increasing the supply of labour, as to suppress wages? This is reserve army of labour-basics, as recently described in www.texasmonthly.com/news-politic...

texasmonthly.comWhy Texas Secretly Loves Illegal ImmigrationTexas politicians have no interest in actually solving the border crisis, which would require devastating the state's economy.

This is a great point and I remember reading in (I think?) Harsha Walia’s book that harsh border policies are meant to be ineffective. You step up the rhetoric and impose a few headline grabbing policies while continuing to allow desperate workers to trickle into the country at the right rate.

Thank you. To add, there is probably a sectoral difference. The article describes how construction often uses contracted labor making it harder to regulate, therefore an easier place to work for immigrants w/o papers. I'd guess the same for care work contracted by private households.

But I realise sectoral differences cannot entirely why some capitalists are for immigration, while others arent. Even if the labour market in e.g. vehicle mfg and construction differ, there are still spill-over effects across sectors, affecting wages generally.

Then next election another right winger can win again saying the border policies aren’t effective enough. It creates the perfect conditions for exploitation because you have a m mass of workers terrified of deportation who then don’t make any trouble for bosses.

Exactly like the previous Tory government - we and tried tried but "lefty lawyers" etc. Same with Bxit - it would have been perfect but "remainer plotters."

He can freely pass between the 2 parties in the US because he's the class they both serve. He had some surface level understanding of issues that he thought of as "from the left" that he vaguely nodded towards when it suited him. But those were as shallow as he is, so he "left" The Dems or w/e.

Musk gained a reputation as a fearsome union buster. Recently, the UAW brought federal labour charges against him over his anti union comments. The ITUC singled out Tesla as one of six companies “that benefit… by continuing to violate trade union and human rights.” www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/08/...

cnbc.comUAW hits Musk, Trump with federal labor charges over union-busting commentsDuring Donald Trump and Elon Musk's two-hour conversation on X, the former president complimented the Tesla CEO on firing workers who wanted to strike.

Naturally his battles with organised labour drove him into the arms of the right. As he became closer to right wing figures in the US and around the world, he became more convinced by their arguments on migration. Why?

Because every smart right winger in the world knows that neoliberal economics don’t win elections. Their ultimate aim is corporate welfare for big business, tax cuts for the rich, and the crushing of unionists and protestors. But they can’t say that out loud.

I think a key catalyst in his alliance with the far right is also covid. He realised the state has the capacity to shut down his Tesla factories (or request it anyway) and therefore realised that political power can still challenge corporate power. His vehement anti-lockdown stance is key.

It’s all about labour. Always has been. Brexit too. Pesky workers’ rights, unions, pay rises. And by making it impossible to get medical care without a job, no one is going to complain. It’s how you get communist population control whilst pretending to be a capitalist.

I'm wondering whether we're giving him too much credit if we see him as just a smart businessman. He's allied himself with political forces that are staunchly against EVs. So either Tesla has become a side show to him - or his turn can't be explained by only looking at his business interests.

A great insight Grace . Have I been hiding under a stone ? I just did not see the rise of the billionaires and tech giants to overpower and dominate the political landscape of the West . Influence and insidiously manipulate the corrupt political elite but outright control and take the power - no

It is interesting that in the US, the protection of private property does not include the workers. I mean, they own their ability and skills and they sell that to the employer. In the late 19th century, workers' unions were considered incompatible with the free market ideology. It was said... 1/

...that employers should negotiate wages with individuals, not with unions. This argument was challenged by pointing out that the factory boss or the company CEO are not the real counterparts of an individual worker. In fact, they represent up to hundreds of thousands of shareholders. 2/

It was therefore justified that employees also have the right to be represented by trade union representatives. These ideas were presented in a Finnish journal at the end of the 19th century. It was not a socialist publication but a patriotic one. At that time, the representatives of Finnish... 3/

...nationalism understood that we would not evolve into a nation if a large part of the population thought that they did not belong to it. Therefore, the right of factory workers to own their own labour had to be protected. A nation could not be for the rich alone. Other oppressed groups were... 4/

Great analysis & I suspect Musk isn't the only Ceo who is pursuing this path. What makes Musk different is he is doing it so publicly. Usually it goes on behind closed doors. Most Ceos know that public extreme political positions are bad publicity for their brands. The public bit doesn't make sense.

OFFS Musk has always been a fascist white supremacist, he hasn't "turned".. gobsmacking that ppl didn't see this.. he's simply become emboldened..

Very helpful insights, Grace. He is certainly rabid with greed. I do think how far right he has gone relates to his failures in parenthood. He blames the world for falling out with his daughter. He will change it before admitting he failed to be a decent parent.