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I have a theory about how many of the world's problems are caused by people who were told they were the smartest people alive as kids, believed it, and then when they became adults and couldn't accept that maybe they weren't that special, started breaking shit if only to prove they were special

Faine Greenwood@faineg.com

like I suspect many of you on This Website, I think a core reason why I find Eliezer Yudkowsky and his rationalist and effective altruist satellites so intensely annoying is because I had a VERY similar “being a super weird, pretentious, hyper-literate kid” experience - I just, you know, grew up.

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Maaaan how did those guys become the richest people in the world and I just got depression and had a nervous breakdown in 2004

I was somewhat lucky in that I was a smart kid, but nowhere near the smartest kid in my school, so I never assumed such about myself. Fun fact, my class had one of the earliest cases of ‘salutatorian sued the school because he didn’t get to be valedictorian’ cases that I’ve heard of (1992).

Sam@very-simple.com

I was a pretty smart kid who was humbled early by being surrounded by literal geniuses. One friend (valedictorian) was a Westinghouse finalist. Another kid in my cohort speed ran high school in three years, still ended up third in the class and went to study physics at the university of Chicago.

Yes. And college has a way of showing people they aren’t the smartest person around on everything, as people meet peers and professors across fields. I think a big part of why we are here is some of the players didn’t go through that. And while some learned about the bigger world, some didn’t

I don't even think it's that. That part is fine, so long as people understand that success is a combination of luck and hard work, and not a function of intelligence (which isn't nearly as concrete as people make it out to be).

Did the math and realized that even if you're in the 99th percentile in the US, there's enough people like you to make a city bigger than Chicago. Was a bit humbling.

It was really hard to come to terms with the fact that even *if* I’m in the smartest one percent of the world I’m one-in-eighty-million. But I did!

They were always obnoxious, but a lot easier to handle before they had ways to make each other a trillion dollars through the group chat.

You'd see it in message boards and comment sections where there are field experts in every imaginable area. Some people woulf ask questions or just lurk and learn and others became trolls because fuck those nerds who are smarter than meeee

Most people like this discover they are not so special in college. The tragedy is that he dropped out of high school and did not have that formative experience. Also meeting people who have grown out of their Sophomore philosophers phase and won’t tolerate it.

There was a kid hired by the security company at work like this. His view was that if he wasn't supposed to do something, then why was he able to? You'll note this is a terrible trait in a high trust position like security, and he was quickly fired for fucking around in confidential areas.

My first interaction with him was him lecturing me on how stupid our IT setup was, because he could just bypass the network like so. Friends, I was there investigating why the gate house network kept getting fucked up.

I think it's harder for those kids to set expectations and agree it's a unique problem but I think it also correlates with highly competitive personalities that can seek to dominate others but I think those are separate issues. They can just often come packaged together.