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If you sell your house you won't have to pay property taxes on it anymore

Honestly, good. I hope this works. They need to feel the pain of their schools, roads, emergency services, libraries, etc deteriorating. Business will flee and their home values will plummet. Maybe then they will finally begin to understand what it means to be part of a society.

I think the folks whining about property taxes are idiots. However, when we bought our first house, it was with a variable rate mortgage at around 9%. We also took out two seconds at 12% interest rate each, and paid all three every month. It was not easy and it did not feel cheap.

You're welcome, Maggie

This is 100% not a national issue, and not a state issue. You don't like property tax, vote out your county commissioners. These supposed conservatives, all of a sudden very interested in centralizing power. Stay out of my local governments fascist pukes.

You say selfish like it's a bad thing.

Why am I not surprised it's Republican states where this is strongest? Okay, let's fund schools by increased income taxes, it's more fair anyway.

If they refuse to pay their property taxes than the must be prepared to pay the consequences, a forced sale of their property to pay the amount they owe....pretty simple. I'm an 80 year old man who clearly understands the value of all of us supporting the essential services we all benefit from.

I’m fine with replacing the property tax system with prosocial housing regulations and zero homelessness standards but I doubt they would like that either

Obviously this doesn't apply to every individual, but as a generation Boomers have been the most selfish generation I think tge country has ever endured.

How does one block new home construction?

Agreed. We are woke now to abuse and the techniques of abusers - we cannot, and should not go back. Indeed it was the prosperity of the 1950's that would spark the peace corps and the civil rights movement. "Waking" the oppressors to the fact that any widespread prosperity would threaten them.

You’re wrong. They got to buy “cheap” houses because after the war the financial system was re-established on a footing oriented towards the real economy, not siphoning off the economic surplus, like today. House prices are determined by speculative demand, not (merely) quantity.

Well, to be fair, I know a lot of boomers (and older) who are not represented by the one person quoted here. Let's not define an entire generation (or more) based on this one person. Yes, this person and others like him exist, but they're not a reason to hate an entire generation (or more.)

They're confusing a civilized country that redistributes wealth, so that it remains civilized with education, postal services, health care facilities and services, utilities, transportation systems, libraries, telecommunications, the Internet, AI, and more; with their own country as a property.

Of course a “fuck you got mine” would think this way

They (& their kids) also benefited from great public education & now don’t want to fund schools

‘Why are property taxes so high?’…well you greedy fucks cut taxes on the wealthy and corporations, and stopped funding local services, so the revenue had to come from somewhere. Tax the rich. Tax wealth. Tax multiple home ownership to death. It’s not communism, it is a working society.

You can assume whatever motivations you want, but no one's "blocked new housing construction to juice their asset value" unless by "juicing asset value" you mean not wanting to live next to industrial buildings or sky-darkening high-rise apartments. Capital gains tax is another issue altogether.

Wouldn’t “housing starts as a percentage of new adult population” be a better measure? Would probably show similar, but still

They could always sell. Lots of people would be happy to buy those houses … for the price they originally paid for them.

Stupid. Just plain stupid.

So people whose home is their only major asset (esp if disabled w/ fixed or no income) should pay very little tax on it, and people who collect homes like trading cards should be paying the way for everyone else. Similarly, I believe in taxing vacant rental properties steeply after a grace year.

BTW. That generation is gone

Unearned?

Also democracy has been sold off to the rich and powerful Get pissed off at that not just some old folks

"A fairer system, [the anti-tax advocate] argued, would make people pay for the government services they use, but not those they don’t. 'I’m not willing to [pay taxes on] my home for a book or a walk in the park'” I bet he LOVES toll roads

It does show that, whether they state it explicitly or not, they recognize the power of their comparative wealth and believe they can use that power to screw over others

Yeah, I looked at the average gallons used, and with the state level gas tax, most ICE drivers are paying like $70-$90 in taxes a year.

It's not enough that they stopped funding public works that they all benefited from

“I want to own my house, live in it, enjoy all the safety and comforts and financial benefits of living in a civil society, and make other people pay for my share of that privilege.” - a lot of selfish ashpoles

I’ll gladly stop paying property taxes when I no longer 1) own property and 2) enjoy the benefits of living in a civil society that must be funded and paid for. Because I try not to be a selfish piece of shit.

It's a reminder that Oregon was founded explicitly as a whites-only state and white people freak out when people who aren't white get any social services at all. That's the root of the "Somali fraud" BS the Republicans are pushing in Minnesota.

Agreed. I still don't believe Christine D who wants to wade into county tax and local school districts has good intentions. Seem more like she wants the Governor to control local tax and schools at the state level, like Texas - which is not local, and not conservative.

I guess I was lucky. I feel like I've always known how this works. (My parents sure didn't try to hide it.)

Yeah it's terrible. Puts the burden on young adults looking to start families, while the elderly are penalized for downsizing. And then we wonder why all our young people leave...

There was a significant recession in the seventies.

I'm beginning to think that intentional over-55 ghettos like "The Villages" in Florida might serve a purpose if they gather up these selfish amoral douchebags and wall them off from the rest of us.

This is among the dumbest fucking things I’ve seen in a while. You can argue about the amount of a property tax, or the use of its proceeds, but to claim that property to which taxes attach are not owned is just stupid.

Population growth from 1940 to 1980 was 71% and from 1980 to 2020 it was 46%. That's a 35% drop in population growth so I'd assume a roughly 35% drop in housing starts relative to the population would be about normal.

I don't know any of the people of whom you speak. None.

The leader of the movement "aghast" at the taxes in his uh... 5400 square foot home.

Yes this is selfishness but you are bad at math. The guy quoted at the beginning of the article is 72, so he likely bought his first house in the Reagan admin. NOT during the postwar construction boom, they are all long dead

Imagine the government dropping $1 trillion on housing

One a-hole says he shouldn’t pay property taxes and a whole generation takes the blame. It’s so boring.

They are going to love it when they have to have a credit card in hand to pay before a private fire department turns on the water to save that house.