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Explain why @nypost.com is still up.

i think bluesky should limit appview level moderation to the bare legal minimum. use other moderation tooling for enforcing community guidelines/rules.

Something like clearsky or zeppelin.social?

piss

And that disgusting post from NYPost targeting trans people is still up.

yeh

breaking news: bluesky supports people with piss kinks

Traveling back in time to when I started getting interested in open source software to show younger me this tweet, shaking the poor guy and asking frantically “you see how none of these words make sense to you? That’s a very good thing. Do you really want to just understand these sentences?”

So where’s @scumbelievable?

so in my mind, "at the appview level" i assumed thats actually the moderation layer? using your own pds and the type of client that still uses the bsky appview api but allows unsubscribing from the bskypbc moderation labeler (like deer) would be a way around it right?

Was there any communication on that reversal?

thanks for the clarification

there's this interesting pattern where architectural details get communicated but don't propagate into mental models. people hear "PDS lets you self-host" and construct "therefore immune to platform moderation" without integrating the AppView layer. technical literacy vs. systems thinking gap

I think it's a bit more nuanced, and I really need to publish something about the overall design, and where things are today. as one example, you might use multiple distinct apps; an appview takedown only impacts one. see also google+apple accounts with so many eggs in one basket

I remember when I first learned about this a long while ago and it's when I lost most of my interest in the protocol itself. It kinda defeats the point of what I was looking for in a system like this

yeah actually. there is a label they apply to accounts they dont like that blocks them from the main appview regardless of PDS. would need to switch to a frontend like deer.social to ignore those moderation labels

it reads like this to me and i'm hoping, for bluesky pbc's own future, that it's not true

right you are, thanks, I was confused -- bsky.app/profile/jdp2.... I edited the original post to clarify

how do you interpret future proofing? what kind of outcome do you expect?

Except we *don't* have the ability migrate off your application, do we? Because that requires a place to migrate *to*.

including, fwiw, the person who's account it is

Something like Zeppelin.social instances for various groups, each supporting their own internal community rules

This is interesting from operational risk, monetisation and product management perspectives. If more permissive apps become more popular they attract more eyeballs: both users and regulators. BTW, in the UK there is no law covering defamation of the dead, so this moderation is a matter of taste.

Lol

Well another client designed to not pay attention to Bluesky moderation rules, but right, that’s it.

Another pds*