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If you feel bad for Natalie Harp, YOU are the problem. Toxic forgiveness. You are the reason Americans forgot how bad Bush was in TWO years.

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It's not that Americans forgot how bad Bush was. It was that the Corp Dems never thought he was bad, just not on their team. His policies were their policies and vice-versa. Same debt, same healthcare system, same genocidal foreign policy.

Bingo. Scott Jennings watched a clip while on CNN of all the derogatory things Trump has said to women just over the past 10yrs and yet he couldn't bring himself to condone the President directly. They all preach "Christian values" and yet none of them follow it.

I do not feel bad for her but I do see that she clearly needs a good therapist. She has zero self-worth and Trump is taking advantage of that. How she ended up so dependent on others for her value is something she needs to explore in therapy and move past.

I feel enough to want treatment for her, mainly, because I think she is dangerous. Even, if she makes a feeble attempt at self harm, the GOP will successfully pivot to blame Ossoff and Democrats with a significant portion of voters. She does need therapy.

Yup, we have a lot of stupidheads in our country who consistently fall for propaganda. It’s beyond frustrating to deal with since THEIR stupidity has directly & adversely affected OUR lives for decades. So we have no safety from guns, no affordable healthcare, meds, housing or education. Arghh!!!

You know who I feel sorry for is Trump’s next female obsession. He will get tired of Natalie and get rid of her. She’s fatal attraction crazy. She will not go gently in to the night. 

She's gone for awhile so she can get her security clearance . Watch what is going to happen....they're both going to go cray cray. It's going to be a shit show from now till the midterms

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Hmm, in the correct universe these people would just be some weird strangers that no one would give a f about. It’s the American people that voted for them who are fully responsible for this shtshow.

I am tired of acting like the people who worship, work for, follow, and obey trump are somehow victims. NO. They have made their choices, just like trump made his choices. It's no secret who he is, his fowl mouth, his lying, cheating, stealing pedo. They are just in for the grift grab too.

True. We can find (a microscopic modicum of) pity for someone even as they’re being an absolute trash bin of a human. Like, Trump grew into a piece of shit largely because his dad was a gargantuan asshole. I feel bad for him only because no kid deserves abusive, shitty parents. But I stop there.

That he is evil is not in question. That he deserves consequences for his choices is also not in question. He is, and he does. But I can still find pity for the child who didn’t have anyone in his corner.

Sure. My own dad was someone who was abused. But he was lucky in that other family members stepped in to help. Kids can’t do it on their own.

Forgiveness and empathy are not mutually exclusive to each other or to accountability. I feel bad for every Trump crony because they're obviously deeply broken in some way. I hope they see the errors of their ways and make restitution. They also should all be in prison and never let out.

Respectfully these are adults who actively choose to do evil things because they truly believe it is what they should do and they are right. Some even believe god chose them to do these things. They need our scorn and retribution.

You know who I have forgiveness and empathy and sympathy for? Everyone who's life was destroyed by MAGA. Why would I have any for one of the main ones who was destroying those lives?

I am tired of acting like the people who worship, work for, follow, obey, trump are somehow victims. NO. They have made their choices, just like trump made his choices. It's no secret who he is, his fowl mouth, his lying, cheating, stealing. They are just in for the grift grab too.

Listen to her. She sounds like an abused spouse. Of course I feel sorry for her. Somebody get her out of there and get her a doctor! What the hell is toxic forgiveness? I don’t “forgive” her. I think she’s in crisis and needs to be removed,

She’s having a mental health crisis. Her father committed suicide in 2020 and she and her mother wanted to tell everyone he “died in his sleep”. She is not mentally well. She’s with Trump to “solve” her daddy issues.

It's possible to acknowledge that someone has been a victim while also holding them accountable for their harmful actions or refusal of self-improvement.

For kicks, feed the letter and this prompt to your fav AI chatbot: You are an experienced psychologist who was referred to the patient who wrote this letter because they knew you would have unique insights, having had these kinds of patients for years. What do you see here? r/o dx and tx plan?

Hubby was not happy when I told him there is a biblical precedent. King David in his old age could not keep himself warm so they found him a young Shunnamite woman to keep him warm at night.

The glitch in the human OS is that we mistake "moving on" for "absolution." We’ve optimized our social empathy for the current news cycle, effectively treating historical accountability like a cache that gets cleared every 24 months.

I think Harp is sane enough to be held responsible for her own actions in a trial. Do I feel bad for her? No more or less than the Russian soldiers who are killed by drones as they beg for mercy. There's lots of tragedy in the world. Trump will toss her in the trash for some reason.

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As pointed out to me by a grizzled old cop, “just because someone may have a mental illness, it doesn’t mean they can’t just be an asshole who also has a mental illness” Forgive accordingly

Anybody who makes it their livelihood mission shielding malignantly narcissistic pedophiles from emotional booboos deserves the guillotine, figuratively speaking of course.

It's the democratic hand wringing, ohhh we made someone upset. It's empathy, unfortunately we have it. There's little to no empathy on the GOP side for Emily Moreno or her daughter or Mike Caruso's victims or any other SA victims on the GOP side. It's just business as usual.

What utter twaddle Not one member of trumps world was pressganged or Shanghaied All went willingly Some bottled out early on ,some stayed the course but they all had eyes wide open, aged 21+ and free to leave any time So no Not one Fuck is given

We USians seem to be a bit fixated on the Grace of Lincoln & quite missing the point that we declared victory & forgave too quickly after the Civil, World, & Cold Wars while the enemies changed tactics & strategies & kept on fighting. Hyper-short memories & not much for the long game, most of us.

I disagree. I can hate and oppose what she’s doing, but also think that she is clearly unhinged. I don’t think forgiveness has anything to do with it. Whatever I think of this woman does not prevent me from fighting the Trump regime in every legal way I can.

💯. This is crazy. We are getting mad at Ossoff for pointing out that the president of the United States has a mentally unfit woman in his inner circle, learning America’s deepest secrets and we have people saying don’t be mean. This administration kills and kidnaps Americans. FUCK BEING NICE! 

God - you should know that two things can be true at the same time. It's clear Natalie Harp is a victim. It's also clear she's doing horrible things. The world isn't a dichotomy.

🤨 [Googles toxic forgiveness] Ah. 😑 Yeah, pretty much. "I don't want them to actually be PUNISHED and learn that what they did was BAD! I want to keep things PEACEFUL! Even if it's a fake peace that'll only last right up until that dickhead does something wrong again!"

Thinking about it, I'm tying this concept to people who are lazy parents/terrible with children. Because if a child does something wrong, they get punished, and they throw a tantrum, what do they learn if the parent ends the punishment almost immediately because they can't stand the screeching?

All they learn is that acting up lets them get away with shit, OR if they go, "I'm sowwy, mommy, I wuv you.🥹" then they won't get in trouble at all for something like setting the cat on fire. I'm just thinking of how many people get raised that way, and what that leads to.😑

Because in my head, that leads to toxic freaking so-called "Christians" who will do the most self-righteous, hypocritical and judgemental shit, and act like they'll be A-OKAY. Because SURELY God and Jesus will be fooled JUST as easily by the crocodile tears trick they used on their parents. 🙄

God, I see you are also cursed with a long memory. I recently realized that getting old isn't a matter of aches and pains, it's a matter of the pain of nobody fucking listening to you when you say don't do a dumb thing with horrible consequences I have seen happen before.

What's there to feel sorry for? She's a (fanatical) adult who's made her own choice to be stuck so far up his orange ass, that she might star turning orange herself and nobody would notice. Dictators always have fanatics. She knows exactly what she's doing, as do you, if you have any sense.

Never feel sorry for a trump bootlicker cultist who is actively helping him divide us destroy us lie habitually every day she is insane like her pedophile felon king and is the enemy just like all trump cultists

Nearly a decade ago, I got savaged on Txitter for suggesting after the Red Hen imbroglio that Sarah (Huckerbee) Saunders could afford to miss at least one meal. I trust the last nine years have confirmed that these people and their defenders can fuck right off.

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I can acknowledge that she is a sick person. I can wish her no ill. I can also have benign indifference to whatever happens to her. She put herself in the public eye, she’s a functioning adult — Que será

Anyone who thinks Trump is a romantic prize is a fool. Look at him physically and his past. His money doesn't even look good to me. They can't print enough money for me to give Trump the time of day! Ugly bastard!

I don't feel bad for Natalie Harp. It's just that she is a distraction, no less than the Iran war. There are better ways to spend time and energy.

In fairness Trump has greatly raised the bar for awfulness. I remember when we thought Reagan was the worst thing to happen to democracy.

I didn't forget after two years God. I have not forgotten yet. War crimes then. War crimes now. But God, where the fuck is your omnipotent power to actually be a father/mother to people who truly believe that you are all powerful. Why do you allow these crimes against humans, animals, races, genders

Yes. My neighbors were dragged away by ICE and my city turned into a fascist free-for-all last winter. All of these people are responsible for that to varying degrees. Seeing that chances of real justice being brought to any of them are slim, we have the duty to relentlessly mock and torment them.

NO ONE…NO “PRESIDENT” or administration has been as hateful and dangerous as THIS one. No one gives a crap about dementia Don and his binky Natalie..not even Melania. So stop comparing! Nothing like this has ever happened to us before and we need to make sure it never happens again 🇺🇸😪

We should feel SO bad that she doesn't know about all the other women Trump is ogling and how he'll eventually replace her with a younger hotter blonde..we should feel SO bad and definitely NOT try to make her jealous and possessive...

“Toxic forgiveness” (great term btw), has bit us in the ass since the Civil War. Gore never should have conceded. We taught them that our scruples could be used against us. It’s time to hold people accountable for their crimes. Let’s start here: Scientific American share.google/VsCQxLJMmEcZ...

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I look forward to her having a full psychotic meltdown one day when he ignores or pisses her off since she has full access to his social accounts & could post the most insane content out of angry spite (more than normal)

If her actions are a result of a mental disorder -- and maybe one stemming from childhood trauma, which I've seen some survivors pointing at signs of -- it'd be kinda callous (if not vile) not to feel bad for her. Mind you that's an "if". Jury's still out if it's applicable.

You can still feel the tragedy of her. Doesn't mean you're complicit or pardoning. If we don't see/feel this, then we are lost no matter our moral stance.