Post

JD Vance just made an account on here and then was swiftly banned. I am obviously no fan of the VP, but Bluesky will never experience the growth it needs if it instantly bans any dissenting voice, including the Vice President of the United States. Feels like the wrong way to run things IMO.

47 reposts415 likes

I think he clearly knows what’s on Americans minds especially here at bluesky and I don’t think he will read one word here. I know exactly what’s on his mind and don’t need to read his BS here. I will block.

Block, mute, report, and ban accounts like this. We don't have time to deal with smalldicks. We need to focus on our work... our message. Focus on making friends. Focus on what is important to our lives. We need to be the adults. We don't need to play games with manchildren - childish idiots.

I found his profile and read some comments. A few were bots but mostly, people not wanting him here. Then I blocked. Note, there’s more and more bots on this app now. Careful who you follow & let follow you.

Banning the guy is ridiculous. I don’t agree with most anything he says but this place already has the reputation as an echo chamber. Banning the Vice President only makes this app look bad

So are you saying growth is dependent on outright lies, denigration and whatever bag of misinformation is in his bag of tricks? So sorry, but I honestly feel responsible growth can happen without that type of compromise… in my humble opinion.

I agree, personally I rather not see the bitch so I blocked him. However, others should have the opportunity to voice their displeasure if they so choose.

Most of us give 0 f**ks what he has to say and you should know that Brett. He is trying to play a click game and we are not having it! I love MM and watch you guys faithfully, but now you have me wondering if you're just trying to get an interview. I hope not.

I don’t agree Brett. Having someone like him learning all of our discussions and plans isn’t comfortable to all of ppl. If we went on their platform they would ban us I came to this platform to have friends and peace. Not extra headaches and arguments

He or his staff will only be reading to make sure what he says pisses us off. Then he’ll screen shot that to show off to the Nazis on X. Let’s all just block the asshole & not let him use us like that. He’ll violate terms of service & get booted again. They are not doing anything in good faith.

I don't care if the devil himself has an account on here. If they do start saying offensive things or behaving in a way that goes against house rules, don't engage, mute, block, report. That's when suspension comes into play. You know, like twitter used to be.

Thanks for this, Brett. You're a good soul, it would be nice if he did wish to discuss things civilly but I have only ever seen him fomenting hostility and verbally abusing those who disagree with him, just like his boss. Still, you make a good point, and I respect that - and you - for your efforts.

No. That’s what he wants so he can go back to X to post ‘so much for the tolerant left’. He’s not here in good faith. Look at his post. Do not engage, do not share, do not reply. Only use for that account is to block as many MAGA lurkers as you can. Or just block right away, and move on.

I’m literally shaking right now because some fascist prick with MAGAt stickers on his truck cut me off on the way home from work and I come here and you’re telling me I gotta deal with more racist, anti LGBT, fascist scum bags when I’m trying to get away from their disinformation?

I think it's a Trojan horse where they just try to exhaust the opposition through bad faith arguments. These people don't care about the truth; they want to destroy the pro-democracy movement.

I’m glad he got blocked. Fuck him. He literally spent his first post talking about why it’s cool to shit on trans kids. Normalizing hate doesn’t improve this platform. Shame on you for defending this garbage!!!!!

I am not a proponent of the current politics in general. But my concerns are more about having people scouting this platform for reasons to shut it down. I suspect that this is partly why the hiccup.

Matt Kent@pharmkent.bsky.social

Illustrating the problem with BlueSky’s “block first ask questions later” approach, it only gets applied to liberals. The (awful) VP makes an account and has the top posts of the day - and fuel for him to post about. They’re blocking the wrong people because they never cared about the community.

Agreed on this,I know vpJD only in it to be the next prez,but he’s especially thin skinned on the socials,and it’s a way to get through that MAGA info bubble that they have been protecting themselves in,we have to attack and permeate and disintegrate their informational poison to somehow neutralize

Guess what...Ben Meiselas--the Midas Touch grifter not progressive..he makes money off being a "Never Trumper" right winger, a lawyer and helped turn LA Magazine into an advertorial)--immediately condemned banning of "new voices" on BSky. I called him out and seconds later..he blocked me.

Well speak to the people, I left twitter because I was tired of being of provoked! I found myself being pushed to hate people that I didn’t even know… it was too easy because of the shear stupidity…. Not common sense but stupidity and ignorance…

The rooster was hit hard on Saturday. Good. If a Vance account is permitted, what about the others? TACO 🐓 Heggie, Gnome, Loonie Loomer, Mad Marj, Granny Boobert? If the door is open to one dodo, others will DEMAND to have an account. Accounts like Vance's are used to destroy hope and distract.

I'm a big fan, but I respectfully disagree. We should welcome conservatives, but fuck these MAGA nazis. They don't deserve the attention or platform. The right has tons of echo chambers, and it works for them. We can have at least one. No good comes from him being here.

I care less about platform growth than about the moral imperative to protect us all from the constant lies spewed by this administration. Their callous cruelty and duplicitous disinformation render them ineligible for access to this improved social platform, IMHO.

Normally, I would agree with the concept of allowing dissenting opinions in the spirit of encouraging constructive dialogue. However, I've learned over the years the best way to deal with a zealot is to categorically refuse to engage with them. Vance is a zealot. 'Nuff said.

Would we allow Hitler on here? Should we make our community grow and welcome people who don't tell the truth and hate us and anyone who's not a Republican? I get enough lies and hate outside of here. I don't care if he is the VP or not. Should we welcome Taco also?

If his cult doesn’t follow him here they won’t get to read how normal people respond to JD’s lies. If the only people who hear us on Bluesky think like everyone else on here then we are preaching to the choir. The shit needs to be called out in front of Trump supporters.

He will bring along all the rotten negative people from twitter. We all left so they are screaming into the void and they don't like that we're not answering. I'm done with all that hateful crap coming from them. I blocked him.

We don't need to play nice at everything.. Look what it got US.. He'll still create news worthy stuff, just not through BS. He's got his TS and Twitter and more

"growth it needs" Walk me through what that entails. Does Bluesky need more liars? More faschists? More "diversity" from fact and good faith? Or just more numbers period regardless how much they diminish the overall quality of the forum?

If you're that anxious to interact with him, there's always that "Truth" Social thing. Or were you thinking that those of us who don't want to see or hear his shit should nonetheless be prohibited from blocking him? Because that's what is going to happen anyway even if he isn't banned.

I don’t think most people even remember why Bluesky was created any more at this point. But it certainly wasn’t to have yet another social media app where you account depended on the whims of a very small group.

This is literally the exact issue with you guys and why i rarely watch MT after the election. You guys refused to look into the clear Election interference with your so call "election experts". We screamed that something was off and now look, actual proof is there and still you are all silent.

BlueSky doesn’t ban users based on ideology. There must have been a reason. For all we know it was a fake account that did something to get banned so that RW trolls and others would jump in with “BlueSky is an echo chamber that bans dissenting views!”

Let’s be clear: There’s only one reason Vance would join and encourage his followers to join BlueSky: To flood this platform with misinformation and Nazis and pressure on BlueSky to relax its moderation guidelines. To turn it into another X.

This should be a safe platform for those of us non-MAGA citizens who are already being hurt by this administration. If we want to hear from Vance or Trump we can turn to Faux or the media. This is not the time to invite more hate into this platform.

Brett when will you learn that “when they go low we go high” never works and all we end up doing by taking that approach is enabling hate speech and normalizing bigotry? WHEN WILL LIBERALS LEARN???

Agree. Dissenting voices are good for debate and expression.. but allowing a known voice that just spews lies and hate and tries to bring out the lower baser instincts in the reader. That’s just not right. That’s flooding the echo chamber to diminish those who don’t like to shout. He can go to Dons.

How do you know this was the post that got him banned? Anyway, Thomas, shockingly (😱) was wrong in his comments: the TN ban applies to treatment that is NOT permanent. Also, for him to say that the experts in their field let their “ideology” determine their views is the height of hypocrisy.

I don't want to debate whether trans people have a right to exist or get the healthcare they need. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of topics (interracial marriage for example) you feel the same about. Inviting 'debate' about vulnerable groups normalizes their persecution.

I mean, he picked the *one* topic and the *one* angle that he knew would be the most controversial to make his debut here for engagement. Easily viewed as trolling from a potentially fake account, hence the ban (which has been removed I think?) Extremely hard to view his attempt as genuine.

IMO, this approach is exactly the problem. This is how democracies fail to protect themselves. Once you spot an enemy to democracy, you DO NOT NORMALIZE HIM. And if you still don't recognize JD Vance is an enemy to democracy, I really don't know how to help.

Nope. I don’t want to share space with a lying pos who indulges in hate speech. Not welcome here. Maybe some wholesale MAGA rejection will help them get a clue that normal people don’t like them or the lies they spew?

U have a point....in normal times. It will take up media space, help flood the zone, & power their propaganda war. Regime is enemy of democracy & America. Accusations are confessions. No matter, his cause will be devious. This is no longer normal times, time to fight to get those back.

Why would you want this place to end up like all the others? No good can come of it. Make people seek out his voice-don’t just splash that lying stupidity on all who have left the other toxic sites.

I am conflicted, but I think your point is accurate . I think dissenting views are valuable, but we’ve moved beyond that. Once the term “alternative facts” was coined, the value of the current republican viewpoint dropped to “0”. Truth has to matter

It's not about disagreement; it's about facts. The constant disinformation from the right has destroyed civil discourse in this country. This site is a haven away from the BS. I know and you know that JD Vance was going to use the platform for his own agenda. Bluesky did the right thing.

I disagree. The best part about Bluesky is the way we can shut up a hateful and dangerous person and give good people a place we can come together and reset when we need to and then go forth to resist if we want to hear Vance, he is already all over the place anyways. Jmo

I agree with you. Vance isn’t a dissenting voice, he’s a propaganda puppet for Trump & Thiel. He’s not a legitimate person with a legitimate opinion, he’s a piggybank filled with whatever “opinion” will give him the most money.