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"You say you only used AI for placeholder text, but in that text was a response from the AI saying 'here's a revised version'. Here's what I don't understand - why revise placeholder text? You see my problem? It just doesn't make sense to me. Why revise something nobody was meant to see, unless..."

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When you outsource your imagination to a text generator, it makes it harder to come up with a plausible cover story. They would use the LLM, but they're out of tokens right now.

It's such a a bummer because everything I heard about the concept for The Alters was so interesting, but if they used it for "placeholder text" and only admitted after being caught out, then where else are they using it without telling us

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If a dev had placeholder text (likely copied from a book source) that I wanted to make sure was unique and sound more sciency I could see the thinking that would have them pass it to an AI to revise. Stuff like that happens when waiting for the writers to provide final text.

They're not using it for placeholder text. That's the point. They're using it for text, and then going "Oh, that was just placeholder left in by mistake" when they get caught out.

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One thing that I notice is that books and games that use AI text keep getting caught out because they cut and pasted the text and didn't remove the prompts or replies. Which suggests that using AI goes hand in hand with a general "fuck it, that'll do" lack of attention to detail throughout.

It's very much that. I'm being forced to use it at work because metrics, and it has been leading to some of my worst code quality and worst code habits ever. I have to actively fight to do stuff that would normally feel natural as part of just writing good code.

I think that the issue is worse than we think. People who leave in the prompts get caught, because the accusation feels iron clad. I think there are plenty of games with "shit" writing that is actually AI but with no way to prove it other than it's bad.

It reminds me of a fiction writer who was caught for plagiarism and her explanation was that she had pasted placeholder text from another work and then forgotten to rewrite it. The problem being, of course, you shouldn't be doing that anyway.

At BEST, if you want to use that work as inspiration, JUST REACE THE TEXT WITH A CITATION. Make your placeholder a book name a page number and maybe a paragraph number if needed, for example, then at least instead of plagarism it just looks like you told the reader to go read another book.

Well, the ones that get caught: yes. I think i'd rather read it, in this instance, as 'give the entire writing work to the most junior staff-member, on top of all their other jobs. They'll use AI, it'll be no more work at all!' It gobsmacks me when authors get caught with it in their books tho.

As someone who gave up reading all the logs'n'stuff in games years ago, this has about as much impact on me as procedurally generating the trees on distant mountains. But if they actually expected people to read this stuff (and we are dealing with gamers here) then hoooo-ey! Smack my gob up.

Thats the grift, make some that looks like the thing someone might want, pump out nonstop garbage until regulations and laws make it less proftiable and move onto the new grift, not having a passing thought about the impact of just a single person has with this kind of operation.

Inventing AI to replace people, then needing to hire people to manually copy and paste the AI's output in a GUI because nobody deploying the AI knows how to use an API to wire it to what they need is hilarious.

"I wrote a script and gave it to a guy that reads scripts. And he read it and said he really likes it, but he thinks I need to rewrite it. I said 'Fuck that, I'll just make a copy.'" - Mitch Hedberg

i think y'all are looking into it too much, it'll say "here's a revised version" if you make any sort of suggestion. odds are the "revised" version was just shorter or longer depending on need AI still sucks, but like, have some faith in people lol

Length of placeholder text is irrelevant. That's why ipsum lorem text just fills the available space with gibberish. It also clearly said that the revision was "focusing purely on scientific and astronomical data" which is an editorial note. There's no reason to edit the content of placeholder text.

I don't even mind if an AI wrote something, if it's good I won't notice. What bothers me is when the lazy creators themselves didn't even care enough to proofread their own product. If they didn't care why should I?

They also used AI to do additional subtitle translation. This wasn't one rogue employee. Also, patching it won't change the fact they did it - and presumably used it for other elements of the game that didn't happen to have obvious AI markers left in by accident.

And that Lorem Ipsum works because it is clearly and obviously placeholder. It gives the impression of text at a glance, but one closer look makes you go "Aah, no, that needs replacing with actual words". Placeholder text that can be mistaken for final is...not placeholder. At all. Ever.

I really like 11bit games, so when I heard Atlers use ai and they posted an apology, I had hopes this wouldn't be their fault and they stand their grounds against exploitative tech, after reading it, however... damn shame