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Gee, I wonder why

Here’s one checking in. Although I did it during Bush 2. Saw the writing on the wall once the SC gave him the election over Gore. Best decision of my life and absolutely no regrets

Have you seen who's running this joint? Americans want to feel safe and stable with a bright future.

Why would anyone be surprised?

It's not complicated. The fertilizer we need is currently on the wrong end of Hormuz. As in the fertilizer everyone *on earth* needs, and now there's a huge shortage, and even if they'd produced it, which they can't, there's no way to ship it.

And Gary went without power for 2 weeks, coming soon to a town near you

Private equity is hurting many sectors including veterinary care. Nasty business!

Hope they continue to vote absentee. Please don't burn your bridges.

How long before some of the States start declaring independence? The majority would be better off going it alone!!

Unless we get an FDR level leader to turn this shit around, I see America facing generational declines in all aspects of life while other countries raise their living standards and quality of life. We are seriously considered expatriating but holding out hope for change at home.

Yep. I don't know who TF would want to stay in the US right now given any options.

If I wasn't so old I would be moving to Canada.... America is not the country I grew up in... Sad

Canada is pretty tough for people from the US unless you have "desirable skills". They don't want a bunch of folks swarming the border for decent wages and affordable healthcare.

Living and working overseas is not what you think. It's a major investment that doesn't always pay back what you put in. The US Immigration system is brutal and so many countries are reciprocating. You can't work on a touristic visa. Work permits are lengthy and costly.

Middle class?

I do think that when these problems invade the middle class is when real change starts to happen

My husband is applying for Canadian citizenship. I can get permanent residency.

Affordable education and healthcare? Mandatory vacation and maturity/paternity leave? Sign me up!

Why? You seriously ask why? 😐

Finally came to the party? The best and brightest have been the biggest US export for years. Kids want a real education without indentured servitude, and it has the added benefit, they won't be bankrupted if they break an arm or have an accident.

Too bad those of us that are paycheck to paycheck are stuck here. We can barely keep up with everything rising except out pay. Leaving the US is a pipe dream, right along with the lie that was the American dream.

Of course they’re middle class, there is no middle class in the US anymore

Congress has allowed so much destruction. No ACCOUNTABLILITY for Trump ever in his 80 year criminal history! Thank you Senators and experts for what you are doing and standing up for the people and our historical buildings. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7c...

Probably all the rich people who wanted deregulation, union busting, and exploited the immigrants they hate so much to pay them garbage wages under the table. Now that they've destroyed their own country they're leaving the ship like rats and looking for a new country to infest.

Statue of LIBERTY.....

Not much of a mystery at all. I'm only still here because my parents won't leave and they are going to need help as they get older.

I got my eye on beautiful #Ireland

It's because of Trump. There I saved you from clicking the article 😛.

They want to get away from the hatred that runs so deep in this country.

And they will quickly find they can't escape climate change or the march toward fascism...

The middle class in the US is shrinking & becoming harder & harder to stay a part of. With republicans in charge we’re all quickly becoming part of the lower class & working harder than ever! America does not take care of its citizens, so I’m not surprised the middle class is going elsewhere.

Why not try living #vegan? That, too, is a whole new life—full of new experiences, challenges, and plenty of fun. ✨🌱 #NewLife

<raises hand>

I wish I could move as well. 🙁

Let’s see why I am actively looking to move- healthcare, the promise of only working 1 job, quality of life and fresh food

Middle class is being squeezed by the BILLIONAIRES/CORPORATIONS…..AND THE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS WHO SUPPORT THE BILLIONAIRES WHO PAY THE DARK MONEY DONATIONS

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Tax the rich!

We know the why!!! I just got my dual citizenship to Portugal!!!

The US has become a facist hellhole. Anyone with any sense wants to move elsewhere.

I adore the word "cunt", I've seen "The Castle" but if get tested on making Pavlova or eating a spoonful of Vegemite, I'm properly tucker fucked.

Because they are running from fascism????

Six stands on the left, Seven weights upon the right, Meet at six point five. "Why did 4 get jealous of 5? Because 5 had six with seven!" 6 x 7 = 42 = 6! Mathematic KEY of rebirth... 6 + 7 ——— 2 = 6.5 The middle. Not surrender. Balance.

Why would I be surprised by this?

Yeah maybe we should stop making it harder and harder to live a comfortable middle class life in the USA?

Most of that time is spent sleeping or golfing.

people are fleeing for their lives you complicit buffoons

Yes, adding to the tax deficit by removing people with actual jobs, not those working at Walmart, thereby creating a larger problem for those who remain. I get it's easier to run away but we only need 1m people to march on Washington and demand Trump be removed. DC has plenty of people alone.

Yes I wish we would actually invest more in our public schools and equip them all for our kids safety.

Yea, I gotta say that close to 10% is plenty concerning lol

No doubt the government of NZ is well aware of what Mr Thiel attempts to do to the countries in which he resides: burn them down, then flee while whining that everything is on fire. I've had cats and dogs smarter than Peter Thiel.

Here's the RNZ article for anyone who's interested: www.rnz.co.nz/news/environ...

He actually gained citizenship there and also have property there, I guarantee if things gets nasty in the states new Zealand will be his preferred relocating location.

And more would leave if the could.

Honestly I don’t want to move abroad, but I absolutely am considering it.

I would move out of this country in 2017 if I had the means & a place to go

because we are living in a fascist shithole

It’s a shit hole country .

No matter where they live - they’re still 🇺🇸 & can #Vote

8million people has left Venezuela looking for a better future, good luck to the next generation of migrants.

We have discussed it a few times. The only thing holding me back are all my rescue babies and the red tape of relocating with a lot of animals.

I've been living in friendly, safe, sane and affordable SE Asia for 10 years now. In the US my Social Security "might" last 2 weeks... in Asia, I live like a queen AND have money left over at the end of the month... I'm still super happy I made the leap..

They’re the ones who can. I’d go in a NY second if I could.

Because it sucks to live here

Many coming here to France.

I thought about this, but you know what fuck trump and maga and the gop, this our country too not just theirs, i will stay and vote or fight if it comes to it

Nowhere is safe from the climate crisis. Good luck.

THEN don't even THINK of coming to the UK, because we are killing the whole country letting THOUSANDS, if not MILLIONS illegal, UNVETTED migrants invade it, unless YOU WANT TO EXPLOIT THEM! PLUS, FOOD WISE, IT IS GETTING SO EXPENSIVE & THAT'S NOT EVEN CONSIDERING EVERY OTHER EXPENSE/ UTILITY BILL.

well since the pressures on the middle-class in the U.S are more and more trying to force them to be poor, it would make sense to move somewhere where one can be middle class, or have the ability to move up. It's the American Dream folks, to get the fuck out of America. medium.com/luminasticit...

People with waaaayyy too much money

My brother moved to Mexico. “Fuck these people and Trump” he said.

Nice!

Gilead is not a place for smart people. Its why many americans are running for the border.

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There is no #Muricun #MiddleClass not like there was…

Why? Maybe it bothers them that our government is abducting 5 year olds because of their skin color.

I’m paying a huge sum to have lawyers get me my Italian citizenship in about 2 yrs time - a year left. The waiting time for an appointment at the NYC consulate is 10 YEARS.

Because the USA is a hellscape.

Exactly. No one in my family has the money, or resources, to move abroad. Nor do we have familial ties to anyone outside the U.S. None of us, as immigrants, are attractive to other nations. We'll all remain, and fight the good fight, because there is nothing left but to do that.

Canada, here I come!

Does anyone know how Forbes defines “middle class”?

Define "middle class", @forbes.com ps: not surprised at an exodus, btw

Well, YOU @forbes.com may be surprised! But Americans younger than 60 are NOT surprised. All have had less job security, income, and lifespan along w more rising costs and bought-and-paid-for politicians than their parents. The result is a country of, by, and for the wealthiest only.

Probably because poor people can't afford to leave? And rich people already live in like 10 countries?

It is not even remotely surprising that they're middle class. Lower class people may be in worse conditions, but move away with what money?

I personally know 3 families that moved to live in Europe: France, Italy, Netherlands, and according to them, they’re living the best lives.

Not surprised at all. Life is more affordable elsewhere

this place sucks and almost everywhere else doesnt, hope that helps

Have you seen what Austria's public housing looks like ? Id rather be broke over there then make 130k here in the states.

…they know that the America they grew up in no longer exist and may not recover to the point it was when the WH wanker began burned it all down…Portugal, Spain are two countries with expats from America…

You have to ask why ? Seems pretty obvious 🤷‍♀️

So, I finally made it into Forbes.

Make no mistake. Some are simply securing their families future abroad as they/we plan to decapitate and exterminate US fascism. It’s in defense of humanity.

When I was a kid over 50 years ago in the Bronx, New York we had fire drills. Now kids in rich neighborhoods have to do active shooter drills. The Second Amendment does not give everyone a right to a gun. Corrupt and evil right-wingers want more guns everywhere. www.politico.com/magazine/sto...

People who hate education, people who hate science, people who hate modern medicine and health care, people who want to die before their time, who will have to work till they die for scraps, the US is paradise. A mostly shit media/tech CEOs who support this. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...

The US has the most corrupt, most stupid, most violent, dirtiest (pro-pollution) federal government in the history of the country. A flailed reality game show host who loves orange makeup and hairspray and who can't stay awake, scares most Republican politicians.

“And why?” You fucking damn KNOW why lol

This is an absurdly sugar-coated way to discuss rats fleeing a sinking ship.

If I had the means to move, I would in an instant.

There’s nothing left for us here.