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How does that compare to posting pictures of seashells?

So it begins.

All i gotta say is that they're going to fight like hell to make sure this doesn't go before a jury of seemingly nice old ladies

The court will decide that point, presumably based on Counterman v. Colorado.

Thanks Mr. Pedantic no one is saying it is.

Yeah but this is not it It’s not a crime

The word "agent" appears in neither cited speech. As far as I can tell, they're both symbolically talking about the organization.

Exactly.

My point was about the hypocrisy from Trump’s DOJ. 🤷‍♂️

It can be perfectly legal protected speech to advocate for the overthrow of the government of these United States by force and/or violence. That doesn't make it a good idea.

It’s protected speech.

If bear spray is lethal, we shouldn’t be using that on bears

It's fine actually

Please don't spread incorrect information about free speech law in the United States. It does not help.

supreme.justia.com/cases/federa... erm, i don't think this would qualify as a "public call" and also, you should read Watts

No way does this meet the Brandenburg test for criminal incitement.

Read both sentences. My point was about the hypocrisy. penncapital-star.com/commentary/t...

"Bear spray" is not lethal.

Guess 3/4 of the country are screwed

Time to bear spray ICE!

An indictment for vague, unspecified “threats from 15 months ago? This is weaponization to chill dissent, pure and simple.

A grand jury filled with ICE supporters?

Kill the ice military police

This is Ham Sandwich time. An indictment means fuck all in terms of meeting the standard under the statute.

Wow. If this doesn't make you wonder what kind of country in which you're living, you are lost.

Never a good idea to threaten to kill anyone!

I think states should expand Stand Your Ground laws to include defending yourself from illegal acts by law enforcement.

What the fuck does it mean to "transmit in foreign and interstate commerce" and how does it relate to posting?

Yeah that was... probably unwise.

None of this is even plausibly a true threat. Get the grand jury transcripts and disbar whichever lacky of Harmeet Dhillon filed these charges.

Not guilty.

If the bluesky dude's post fall under this code section, then surely the president's speech today does, as well.

They’ll never catch me.

How does capricious application of law, enhance the 1st Amendment? I mean, I know I've posted various thoughts, while not pointed at a person or entity, would definitely qualify utilizing the criteria listed here, are utterances in absence of specificity and intent, are just speech aren't they?

IANAL but I don't think that meets the Brandenburg test for a true threat

/3/ Moreover, the statement here was unlike Counterman where the defendant had sent messages directly to the victim, so it could reasonably be argued, under the state statute charged there, that the messages were threats.

My personal preference is that every anti-ICE comment puts them in fear because they should live in fear, and they should for a very long time as they are hunted down and called out for their crimes.

Better authority is Elonis v. US (2015) dealing with the same statute in which the mens rea is established as "knowing it would be interpreted as a threat". Oddly not alleged in this indictment.

Why do you hate America?

How callused is your tongue?

To answer your question, yes, that's Brandenburg.

uhhh is that meant to be a credible threat, fr? these people are just going to keep doing whatever the judiciary lets them get away with, huh?

What if we used "Hamburger Time" instead? 😏

I mean it's apparently fine for ICE to shoot people

Sounds like self defense.

it doesn't seem like a true threat to me, but ianal

I was, however, a little surprised by the bear spray charge. Too bad they're only going after blue people.

Don't say it, just do it.

And really ignorant to post.

Imagine if the Biden DOJ had acted with this sort of alacrity.

What about "fuck ICE"? Would it be ok to say "fuck ICE" on here or is that another no-no?

I don’t think the point is to convict. It’s to punish political enemies by tying them up in the system for 6 months to a year. But I agree. STOP HELPING THE FEDS BY POSTING STUPID SHIT ON THE INTERNET.

Good lord. So they’re surveilling SM ? What a bunch of whiners

Not guilty

Fascism and Authoritarianism in full bloom. 😡😡😡

I have said multiple times that anything you do to defend yourself physically from ICE detainment, and anything that happens as a result, is a better fate than letting them take you where they want to take you. I said it again and will continue to stand by the aforementioned sentiment.

Colorado Sunshine is mellifluous as well and you can light it up today 🫡

Tyranny \ non representative government

Those who can’t afford to fight frivolous charges in court should rightfully resist going, law enforcement has no credibility left, especially in this regard. Don’t be a victim to the abuse of the law by partisan operatives, don’t become some cops fucking paycheck, “fight like hell”.

Wondering where 'Fuck the Police' will lead.