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a good metaphor for politics is when you have a drill for boring holes in a board, and you find a hard board, and you immediately give up

Jake Grumbach@jakemgrumbach.bsky.social

A helpfully clear exchange here Hasan: "So your argument is that [Minnesota ICE protesters] should stay at home because immigration is a salient issue for Donald Trump. Opposing ICE is only going to help Trump. Wait until we win the election in 2028." Yglesias: "Yes that is what I would have said"

recalling that the actual quote from Max Weber about "slow boring" is 180 degrees away from limp dishrag centrism. he explicitly says you have to be a hero who reaches for the impossible

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Iglesias thinks politics is top down exertion of state power and anything that isn’t aimed at maximum top down exertion of state power is useless politics. It’s anti-democratic, stupid, false, and abhorrent.

My theory is that he misread it as "slow, boring" and thought it was Weber's description of the perfect Substack/podcast hosting style.

that is the other thing. in order to stop the natural and organic reaction against ICE’s fascist occupation, you would need an oppressive force even more violent and tyrannical than ICE itself bsky.app/profile/gold...

Nathan Goldwag@goldwagnathan.bsky.social

I do not feel the need to engage with this argument morally because, as a political strategy, "impose Democratic Centralism on everyone left-of-center" is about as viable as "achieve true communism in our time".

“everyone shut up and let your neighbors be kidnapped and murdered in the street. a substack guy thinks that might slightly increase Democrats’ odds of winning the next election”

Also what is this but not self censorship, a thing that I had to hear a lot about when it was conservative professors mad they couldn’t blame black people in class

generous of you to even consider the possibility that yggy has read or cares about the original context. this is a guy who was explicitly told by his philosophy professor not to go into philosophy. in some nontrivial way christine korsgaard is to blame for the world having to deal with him

This is why I'm so pissy about data-obsessed twits who insist the public cannot be swayed on issues. If you SAY it is a problem they will move towards you! Trump did this constantly, the only reason liberals won't is cause of ideology and interest groups!