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Finally, a palaeontologist.

"As you can see, the perspective is proper fucked"

it's wonderful that you are sharing this, the more tools that we have to scour out the fake from the real, the better!

OHallo

I think they're being used as examples because they're obvious.

Fascinating article, thanks!

Lots of this is also basic things taught in Art school though, some things can be difficult if you aren't taught right

Unfortunately, those are just new reinforcement learning policy targets for training purpose…

Artist of 15+ years here, and to me even at first glance it's obvious these are AI. It's good that more non-artists are noticing the patterns though, as I'm guessing it can difficult for them.

This was weirdly topical in my drawing II class today. "I guess we all just learned a way to identify fake photos with the current assignment"

This is already the improved version over the prior bullshit lighting. It's possible to do better, but the processing costs go WAY up.

@leandrolemos.bsky.social

okay but have you considered the possibilty that the buildings are poorly built

Okay but improper vanishing lines and poor perspective could also mean I drew it

That's true. Lens distortion can also lack uniformity. Most photographic perspectives are actually "fisheye" distorted just very subtly. Moisture on the camera can also lead to such distortions. Likewise, even furniture, modern buildings and plazas are on hills or are a bit "loose" in straightness.

The main actual indicators here are the colours, and how the shapes are like an airbrushed slurry. The feet and shadows are also weird on the first one. The colours make no sense in that lighting/atmosphere and for that res it lacks the details/dithering. Everything resembles CGI lighting, too.

Yeah indeed. Just don't want people mistaking real photos for AI. Leads to witch hunts and can discredit actual news. Sometimes things look clearly AI but it's not clear why exactly in simple demonstrations x3 Plus the 2nd example is more CGI-oriented, and CGI can do reflection mistakes when baked.

That’s cool that they can do that but I feel like they could have skipped all that line stuff and just zoomed in on the damned thing.

Pretty sure soldier left and right have the same face too

That mirror reflection isn't in the right place, either. Should be larger, because it's not close enough to the original.

Shoutout to the chain that goes inside the soldiers at times If no one got me, the chain got me

Helpful, but that first one doesn’t even pass the “look at the fingers” test, let alone other details.

It has existed for very long tho it's not exactly new

I think it'd have to start with a rough sketch, with layers, details, and then light sources... and now it's not just approximating the final product, it's made 3D CGI, and it took a week and more tokens than Chuck E Cheese. Like, at some point, the next stage of improvement is "invent holodeck".

Maybe fight back by turning off the deepfake machine. Anyone thought of that?

what, i can't be pedantic but you get to text AND drive????

I fucked up the tiling in my bathroom now the internet thinks I'm AI generated.

The same can apply for right-wing AI nonsense too

I have drawn lots of perspective lines like this on photographs. The constructed lines are subject to errors, if you are extending the line from a short segment, or make an error in the point you draw through. The constructed lines don't always meet perfectly.

You will. Your kids wont even bother to care. Their kids will never know it was even an option.

I'm not sure this is something you could easily tailor AI to correct. It relies on very subtle properties of reality that take no effort to reproduce in a photograph, but would require a faking human serious attention to that specific problem & working a ruler. Current genAI works more holistically

I’m not sure there will, unfortunately.

You still need something that understands perspective to interact w/ the genAI at the correct software layer, and that interaction needs to work (i.e. if it corrects the perspective the image still needs to look good, & if it doesn't and you re-run it through the genAI the perspective needs to hold)

that's the horrifying job of Cybersecurity. or in this specific case Digital Forensics. which is technically just the Investigative Version. Digital Forensic Scientists tend to have a degree in Cyber Security. you have higher chances if you specialize in certain aspects like Social Engineering.

Always nice to have additional tools to AI check things

i love this in theory but i'm not looking forward to photographers using geometry-bending lenses being harrassed. it's very possible to make lenses (especially using curved mirrors) that create incoherent vanishing points

see i wouldn't have necessarily clocked any of those as AI, live and learn i guess! i've never been great at perspective though.

Not to mention the crazy ass fantasy language lettering on the tags XD

This is not how I expected to learn how to draw reflections, but thanks anyway

I know nothing of art or math so all I see are lines. Be ruthless to me because I know you will and tell me what I should be seeing here since the descriptions are not helping out at all. Like, I need something to compare the fakes to as far as these dotted lines are concerned.

I suspect many photos within my home would have similar vanishing point issues as are found in that hallway image due to real life construction (especially after settling) not actually being square and level! But there are plenty of other problems with that image.

The guns having no barrels is also a good indicator

Imusually pretty good at spotting AI, but this is actually super useful when I'm not too sure

The same was with the visualization of hands. Young artists need a long training to draw naturally looking hands. The same problem had early AI images. But increasingly AI is improving, so now just because hands are not warped, the image might still be artificially generated.😉

Literally, hahaha. I'm always the one who has to break it to people in my family. You have to have such a broad knowledge of wildlife to be able to do it really consistently, though. Average person knows almost nothing about animals and it makes me so sad!

Lol, basically whatever catches your eye first is all nonsense. I don't know how people are fooled by this slop. I blame decades of underfunding arts education.

uh? Isn't the last image plain wrong? Because the light rays are practically parallel for all intents and purposes, they do not conform to a vanishing point?

You know I find it ironic that image description uses m dash or whatever long version of this thing - is spelled. Which is loved by AI.

I guess our vision/brain already detects this, so these images seem fake even when they look realistic?

Wonder if we'll ever see the return of a film camera, with negatives for evidence!

You sure the poka dot army with no barrels on the guns is fake?!

AI out here teaching people how to draw

Maior incentivo pra aprender perspectiva direito kkkkk

I'm afraid we're back to needing trustworthy sources, which are in short supply as well now. I hate it.

I mean the thesis here is “yes”?