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He fucking abandoned the city at our time of need and the hotel trades cut him a check and he sells out the tourism industry for a generation. Fuck him.

I read the other day the hotel clean union members will make 100k in nyc. The cessation of new hotels must be what made that possible - more competition, higher rates, and higher union salaries.

Sure, in practical effect, but as a political statement we know one is common and the other somewhat unusual.

I’m not going to hedge to death in a microblog post when the effect has been clear for over a decade. We’ve had special hotel permits in some areas since the Bloomberg admin, and citywide since the de Blasio admin. No new hotels.

Kind of a philosophical question – at what point can you say that something cannot be done? At this point I believe we're in the second decade of the hotel special permit (can't remember what the first rezoning with it was – Hudson Square? earlier?), and nothing has been built.

That first one is less than a year old, so maybe it'll still happen. Although this is a very strange hotel – 38 units in 46,913 gsf of hotel area? I'm not sure what exactly that is, but it probably won't fit most people's definition of a hotel. That second one is already operational and has...

...been since before the citywide special permit was enacted. IDK what this filing is about, but it's not a new hotel, so it doesn't count. That third one has had no activity in over two years, and it was reported that they're abandoning the hotel plan and doing a resi conversion: archive.ph/jejIq

Because the new hotels are budget hotels in cheaper areas that they can’t organize and who cannot afford their $100k + huge benefits contract, but they compete with already unionized hotels, which prior to the new hotel ban, had been gradually closing.

One could argue that more hotels would increase wages for workers at those hotels since it would create more competition among hotels to hire workers to staff them.

It is not “totally reasonable” considering his ability to change job growth in that period of time is effectively zero. But I’m not a hack trying to score partisan points so I just view the world differently. (PS-I wouldn’t blame Trump for US job growth in the first few months of his term either)

Hard pass. We have more than enough hotels in this city. Let the tourists get priced gouged. If we want to create jobs, we should build some affordable housing, public schools, and new train lines

The hotel ban has not built any housing, schools, train lines, or created any jobs. It's just made the city worse and more expensive for absolutely no benefit.

This was a story about what nyc could do to increase job numbers. Instead of helping corporations build new hotels for tourists, i proposed an alternative method of jobs creation that would spur meaningful economic growth for the people who actually live here. Sorry if you missed that!

I don't get the "instead" part. The hotel ban has nothing to do with any of those policies and inasmuch as it costs tax revenue and economic activity and reduces density, it actively harms the ability to do the things you propose.

I would like my neighbors to stop being priced out of the city their family has lived in for over a century. We need housing for them, not hotels that will overwhelmingly be used for affluent tourists. Build the hotels on long island, westchester, and north jersey, not here

Given that the city’s cost to build a low-rise library in the outer boroughs now exceeds $2,000 psf, that would be a huge drain on the budget. I want more hotels, but not at the taxpayer’s expense.

Jesus, I didn't realize Julie Menin's hotel licensing bill enshrined daily room cleaning in hotels into law. Do we want to be a nation of servants and the served forever? NY pols will stand up for any interest except the general public's. legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationD...

legistar.council.nyc.gov The New York City Council - File #: Int 0991-2024 Title: A Local Law to amend the administrative code of the city of New York, in relation to licensing hotels

Do you think Menin can be moved (on daily cleaning and more broadly on hotel restrictions)? I wonder how rigid "unless such service is declined by the guest" is, i. e. does the city turn a blind eye to the hotel requiring opt-in and consider it declining by default?

You're buying into anti-labor propaganda. Hotel housekeepers always cleaned rooms every day. That's the job. The reason hotels cut back is to cut pay and jobs, not green policy.

And ironically it encourages the disgusting practice of triple-sheeting (sandwiching a comforter, which does not get washed between every guest, in between two flat sheets, rather than putting it inside a duvet cover), since you need to conserve the labor for daily room cleaning.

Something tells me the Times wouldn't be running this story if the same situation happened under a Cuomo administration. Looks like AG Sulzberger's still salty that his efforts to sabotage Mamdani's campaign didn't work.