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They have no place to go like when we were kids we've been taken over by for profit Anti Kid city Counsels since Republican started really fuck'N our nation over late 80's defunding school activity camps sports open trails ++ strait to No trespassing go straight to the mall & spend $$ ish

Also, kids can't freely roam the neighborhood, play in their front yards, the park, ride their bike to the next block to their best friend to play video games, or the convenience store. Parents; "They spend too much time on their phones." What else can they do?

Here in California the death rate of kids is about to skyrocket due to the speed of the electric scooters, bikes and skateboards. Couple the increased speed with kids running stop signs, riding on the wrong side of the street and passing cars and the result is going to be splattered kids.

Let's be clear: The bicycle's lobby's insistence on placing bike lanes on arterials instead of adjacent non-arterials has exacerbated the bicycle/car safety problem. Destruction of mass transit reliability by converting arterial lane miles to bike only instead of transit only has made it worse.

Fewer kids are out and about - because of the way newer roads, suburbs and cities are designed, and what the planners hope to achieve. So no, my children are not out running and biking on the giant new parkway the city needed in order to lure an Amazon mega warehouse into our area.

I’ve lived in an extremely crowded, pedestrian-centered city neighborhood and a suburban one - and I’m far more afraid of my kids trying to meet friends where cars are the main transportation. They can’t easily get to each other without their bikes - but drivers are openly hostile to cyclists.

Ever catch that show "Old Enough?" Very young children in Japan running errands in cities alone? I think it's the offspring of helicopter parents, from a world where they only know screens, imposing their fear on their kids. In the old days we were physical. We "ran with scissors." Outside.

Come on now. Life happens. Shitty things happen. There's no magic wand for that. The point is kids aren't going outside because of fear imposed on them. That's true. Kids are FAR less likely to be hit by cars today than in the past even thought there's FAR more vehicles. But fear sells.

Gee, what a shock that a car dominant country with infrastructure made to only allow cars, with roads so long from neighborhoods to stores, would have less kids or just people in general walking and cycling.

You hit the nail on the head. Spatial planning needs to pivot away from the suburban sprawl model of housing. Higher density neighbourhoods with parks, recreation, good pedestrian paths, public transport and, yes, well designed roads is needed. But, kids not free to roam is more about crime fear.

It saddens me to know kids today can’t enjoy riding on the roads because of selfish impatience from drivers! More laws need to be passed to protect CYCLISTS!

I’m a cyclist and have ridden 100’s of thousands of miles on the roads with traffic, today’s environment and attitudes from drivers is dangerous! Every car does the wrong damn thing when it comes to passing a cyclist! The drivers don’t view us as human!! Road rage toward cyclists is prevalent!

You’re not entirely wrong, but few cyclists recognize they, too, are dangerous. Too many blow through stop signs, plow into pedestrians crossing or in their path, weave in & out of perceived “openings” in traffic, and *none* signal a turn or keep up with the flow of traffic.

You are entitled to this biased opinion about cyclists, but you are in no danger from any of these cyclist’s decisions!!!! However every cyclists life is in danger from every god damn distracted and or angry driver such as yourself! Yup we are selfish, our lives are literally THREATENED BY CARS!

I know a senior citizen who ended up in the hospital after being bashed into by a speeding cyclist. Whether in a vehicle or on foot, I stay as far the fuck away from you assholes as possible.

They’re also a selfish lot who will demand residential streets be blocked off for their cycling safety and enjoyment while dismissing residents’ concerns about emergency-response vehicles getting through. They’ll bully & insult a cancer patient with an oxygen bottle at community hearings!

Agreed, I’ve given up riding due to the dangers of idiocy of current drivers. They think we should be on sidewalks which are limited to 7mph….. my average speed is like 20 mph when I was riding.

It's perplexing; I get it all the time. Like drivers pay attention to people crossing the street. And sidewalks aren't wide enough for everyone nor great to ride on. Even at 12 mph, bikes are still way faster than walkers. Drivers just perceive bikes to be in their way. Impatience. I still ride.

Absolutely true the streets used to be crowded with kids on bikes and playing when I was young now they're like an extinct being that you glimpse every once in awhile it's very sad they are closed off they don't know how to communicate always on their stupid phone brain rot

We devote entire podcasts, news shows, and programs to essentially banning smartphones and social media. When the evidence that people's safe non-motor-vehicle travel options are extremely limited if at all available, is overwhelming. Part of my paper.

Possibly, injuries tied to e-bikes have risen sharply, with a 2023 CPSC report showing a 70% increase in micromobility-related ER visits since 2017. Do you think better bike lane infrastructure could offset that risk?

The needs and even the desires of Anyone who would prefer to not exercise the special privilege granted to some people of using a car should be prioritized over the needs of anyone wanting to exercise such a privilege.

The 6 foot tall hoods on the 15 foot long trucks with the 50,000,000 lumen headlights all to carry around a 3.5 foot bed that only ever carries groceries needed to be dealt with a decade ago, too. I cannot believe these stupid fucking trucks people drive. Meanwhile a kei truck has a bigger bed...

Definitely roads/traffic but also the unfortunate influx of boomers(or even some cranky old Gen Xers) threatening to call CPS if you let your kid play in the neighborhood. Or post photos on Nextdoor & accuse the tweens/teens of "nefarious activity" simply for walking to the ice cream shop together 🙄

Did I just fully agree with the WhiteWash - ington Post on something? And I didn't even read the article... It's true though: the school in my parents' 'hood is full to the brim with pupils who get helicoptered up daily; none of them do kid stuff outside. It's like a retirement community.

I've never understood why cyclists are supposed to ride in the street instead of the sidewalk when there's no bike lane available? Vastly more dangerous if there's a collision. 🚗➕🚴‍♂️🟰☠️ Or 🚴‍♂️➕🚶‍♂️🟰🤕 Maybe it makes sense in cities, but in suburbs where cars are going 35-45+mph put cyclists on the sidewalk.

Also, much much easier to avoid a sidewalk collision between a cyclist and pedestrian. But if they do collide, probably bruises or worst case a bone fracture. Whereas a road collision between an automobile and a cyclist is harder to avoid and far more lethal for the cyclist.

I see, so I suppose it's regional. Most places in Michigan you can easily cycle on the sidewalk if there's no bike lane, if there's a pedestrian you just slow down or pass on the grass if possible. I'd prefer that over riding on the shoulder of the street where a distracted driver could unalive me.

*kill you(don't need to censor here); but also I do it because the sidewalk dips, bumps from over grown trees, and has obstacles such as signs and trash and trees. As long as drivers behave themself, biking 20mph in the road is vastly superior

But if we aren’t a culture driven to the road by necessity how will the petroleum industry survive 🥺 it simply isn’t enough to make abundantly utilitarian plastic with it, we have to burn up every drop of fossil fuel in existence and release into the atmosphere for our own good. 🔥🔥🔥

That fear is why kids are not allowed out. One child families makes that fear more real too for the parents. Social pressure on child safety has an impact. Cars and traffic are in the mix, but fear of harm by strangers is the biggest real reason kids are not free.

It's sad world we live in. I think our children were the last generation to play outside until the street lights came on, or dad whistled. They went to the store by themselves at an early age. They rode their bikes until their knees were skinned. We drank water from a hose. Kids will never know 😞

A big reason for the paranoia is that cars and suburbs have atomized society to the point where people don't know their neighbors anymore. If the only way you can get anywhere is by car, there is less opportunity to interact with the people around you, and as a result they remain strangers.

If you were to go to a random suburb and start asking people about their neighbors, it's likely that the only ones who would be able to tell you anything are people who have next-door neighbors who have kids in the same grade as theirs. And even then it's not guaranteed.

Not mentioned, but probably a contributing factor, is the number of states that criminalize children being unattended. If kids cannot go places on their own until they are teenagers (or at least preteens), how much are they going to ride or bike when they have the chance?

Kids nothing, I've had two adult friends permantly injured getting hit by cars while riding bikes. Cars hitting cars, houses, you name it. The ultimate freedom machine not so much as they ever multiply & crowd public space. Let the killing CO2 spewing machines take over, or choose mass transit.

Agreed. Kids today have so many things they would rather do inside. I live in a smaller town in Iowa with very little traffic and rarely see kids out playing

My number one concern in my suburban neighborhood: Amazon, uber eats, door dash, et. al delivery drivers. I get we’re all just trying to make a living- but their incentive to cut down times directly endangers pedestrians/children in a way that didn’t exist 10 years ago.

Trump insulted Mexico City in the last few days. A father with his daughter, September 2019. Mexico City closes major streets to cars and people then use the streets to bike, skate, walk, jog etc.).

Outdoor play has dropped 35% since parents’ generation, even though stranger abductions are under 0.1% of missing kids. Small towns’ close ties help keep it alive, think better neighborhood design could bring it back?

There’s no funding/capital to (re)design. Americans are already living in obsolete homes, or simply cannot afford one. Nothing’s going to get shuffled around or redesigned because there’s no immediate, obvious ROI in it; that’s our clear-eyed reality for at least the next four years sorry to say.

Wishful or normative thinking/prayers aren’t going to change what many parents have witnessed out there, including coworkers and medical providers who’ve died or have been permanently disabled while cycling. My kids lost interest in peddling about our ‘neighborhood’ and I can’t blame them.

In a traffic contest between pedestrians, cyclists, and autos .. the auto comes out on top every time; every time. Now they’re ’combining’ cycling lanes with acceleration/deceleration/turn lanes?? What civil engineer thought that dumbassery would work?

Cars are for highways. All cars should be limited to 20mph max at all times on all off-highway streets and roads. By mandatory electronic limiter. And with the traffic calming infrastructure to enforce it. Because e-bikes are and it is dangerous for them when they can't keep up with higher limits.

On the flip side, certain highway sections should give up the HOV lane for a high-speed lane that is only for cars with the most advanced, and infrastructure-connected, safety features (I don't call it self-driving because hands should always be on the wheel and liability on the operator).

agree, car manufacturers should be forced to build safer products, speed limiters and safety features to stop drunk/distracted drivers from operating the car bsky.app/profile/robp...

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car manufacturers could fix this issue, and should be forced to do so i don’t know, don’t let the car start if there is a phone in the car that is not docked in an inaccessible place 🤷🏼‍♂️ people connect phones to CarPlay etc, make it wired from the glove compartment bsky.app/profile/robp...

I believe that nature deprivation is a causal factor of many childhood conditions such as obesity, depression, ADHD, and addiction to video games and fast food. Take the kids for a walk in the woods. Find safe places they can be outside. Elders used to make us turn off TV and go outside and play.

My kids don't go anywhere because it's too fucking hot. Since they were young, they've spent fewer hours playing outside as each sunset gets progressively hotter, for longer periods of time.

The biggest clue that streets are not safer is that when COVID lockdowns happened, traffic fatalities *increased*. The reason traffic fatalities are not higher is because the roads are usually so congested with rush hour traffic jams that no one can build up enough speed to actually kill anyone.

When I was a kid, that was a perfect day. I had a black Iverson 10 speed bike I bought myself at 15 years old. It cost 110.00 dollars in 1974. That’s 300,000 dollars in today money.

Riding in hot weather is not as bad as people who have not tried it think it is. I prefer cold weather and am happy outside when it is freezing. Yet riding when it is hot is tolerable because even at low speed and high humidity the wind will provide cooling.

…right up until you stop. Honestly, that’s a me issue but must not be just me. How do other hot weather riders cope with the sudden spike in temperature from necessary stops? Electrolyte drinks have helped _a lot_ but I’m still a fainting goat in the face of temperature spikes.

Today a teenage boy was riding his bike on a busy, hilly street like his pants were on fire. I waited for him to pass before pulling out onto the street. He had no protective equipment at all and it is a very hot day. He ran all the lights and stayed in the street for many miles. He is damn lucky.

I was working outside a few weeks ago, can’t remember the exact temp and humidity but it was up there. I was sweating and unhappy about it but a boy maybe 6-8 years old rode by on his bike, carrying a fishing pole with him. Made me enjoy the weather a little more because I realized someone else did

Kids are afraid to walk to beat the school bus on a dirt road out here in the country. Or their parents just don't bother to let them. We used to walk to school. I really don't think the same or dangerous now than it was then

But not everyone lives in a city. There's plenty of kids in the suburbs, where streets are safe, where Mommy and Daddy don't let little Johnny outside because something "bad" might happen. It's easier for them to throw a screen at him. This is about parents. Not cars.

Look at all the suburb people defending themselves from what they know to be true. Dude? DO something about it. I'm done with fucking Bluesky. Most EVERY comment is whining, blaming or demanding. Over it. Nothing personal dude. But I think you put me over the edge. I guess I should say thanks

Much more likely, Johnny doesn't go out because his parents voted for politicians who tore down the playgrounds, filled in the pools, and paved over the parks to make room for big box stores, so there's no place for Johnny to go when he's outside, and even if there were he'd need a car to get there.

And there you go. ALWAYS someone else's fault. Usually the gubment. Despite the fact that there's FAR more parks and pools and all the rest of it the screamers are gonna' scream. Personal responsibility? Fuck that. Well, as least you picked a good profile name. Something tells me that's your lane

That’s an ableist & somewhat privileged view. We have car dominance because many of us have to cover vast distances in a day with barely enough time as it is; public transportation is largely municipal; Paratransit is limited to boundary lines; and cars are more practical under the circumstances.

Urban sprawl is caused by an affordability crisis. Try to find even an 750-sq-ft affordable bungalow, let alone a single-family, starter home in a large, expensive population center like NY, Boston or DC. You’ll have to settle for something an hour or 2 away. It can costs millions in the city.

I hear you accessibility, distance, and time constraints are huge factors, and for many people cars aren’t just convenient, they’re essential. I think the challenge is finding ways to improve safety and mobility for everyone, whether they rely on cars, public transit, bikes...

Don’t be silly. Who said anything about mandates? Just laying out the facts, as they came to be. Generations of us have tried to find workable alternatives, if only for our own sakes. You’re welcome to try again. More options would be great.

You are completely and totally wrong. Car dominance makes the richest industries what they are, they lobby the gov and box out other options. So few people have the situations that would necessitate a car and they don’t live in cities as you said. Cities have more cars than anywhere.

Cities are not fungible, nor their occupants. They vary widely in population size/area, climate, efficiency of local transportation, food deserts, etc. Biking home with groceries for one is challenging but possible in sunny LA but very different for a family of 5 in upstate NY blizzard country.

Too many people are in too much of a hurry and or are distracted by their phones. People are impatient and think they’re the only ones in a hurry. I especially love it when someone doesn’t stop at a stop sign, pulls out in front of you and acts like you did something wrong if you blow your horn.

nope i live in a city with quite good public transport, yet we still have exponential car traffic growth. owners scream about their right to park in the city centre whenever someone mentions we hardly have any pavement fit for wheelchairs or prams and even those are constantly parked on illegally.

discouraging car use and walkable cities would be better for those few, too, who truly must have them, like disabled people, delivery workers, etc., because there would be less traffic, no jams, wider pavements, more dedicated disabled spots, loading zones and so on so forth.

No, on the long term, people have to cover vast distances BECAUSE of car culture. Look at photos of any US city on 1910. It was super dense, no need for a car. Then they were destroyed to make room for parking and highways.

I repeat: the suburbs were a post-WWII solution to the housing crisis created by a massive & unforeseen population bubble, the Baby Boom Generation fathered by all those returning GIs. The highway system was created in the decade afterward to connect suburban communities to downtown jobs/stores.

Not at all. I was responding to a somewhat myopic comment. Car culture developed for practical reasons, and until alternatives are equally accessible, practical, and affordable, it won’t change. Generations have tried and failed because they see car culture as a cause rather than an effect.

Kids are not outside because of a cultural shift: overprotective parenting too fearful to allow “free-range childhood” and a child-welfare system that will prosecute parents who allow it. Also, they’re overscheduled & prefer their devices for leisure time than being exiled to the gulag outdoors.

How many kids and parents have you talked to about how they set limits for walking or biking alone? There are plenty of iffy reasons, and those social concerns aren't new, but a lot of parents and children explicitly say that their personal limits are mostly determined by fear of drivers.

we can't have safer streets because someone in a wheelchair might have a long commute? I'm not connecting the dots here. I'd imagine people with disabilities would really appreciate safer streets. gotta imagine it really sucks when the sidewalk ends.

Bro...no it isn't. You can criticise car culture and how dominant cars are in society and also acknowledge some people need cars. Literally what are you talking about? Nothing that has actually been said was in any way ableist.

Wanting fewer cars doesn't mean wanting you or anyone else who needs them not to have them. Right now, all focus is on car thruput and parking, including parks and trails. Kids don't walk/bike because cars make it unsafe, so they're driven, which means more cars. It's a vicious cycle.

we are only here though, because of car dominance. car dominance is what led to us *having* to cover vast distances in a day - why build centrally when everyone has cars and can drive across town or in from the 'burbs. Car dominance is what led to the issues in the first place

In my area it's the opposite, people with mobility issues and other disabilities are by far the most vocal supporters of public transportation. City busses are a literal lifeline for them. They rely on them to get to doctor appointments and grocery stores.

They are here, too, but unfortunately the money has not been there to meet everyone’s needs. We have wheelchair vans for the disabled and elderly, but their hours of operation and range are sadly limited.

All of the small towns and big cities in my county and the surrounding counties link their bus routes. People in one town can easily get to a hospital or shopping center in a town the next county over. It's less ableist to design good public transport routes than encourage car dependency.

There’s nothing “bogus” about a 1- or 2-hr commute, which is workday reality for many Americans. In the Washington metro area, your nearest affordable home ownership option may be 1 hr 50 mins away in Winchester, VA. or 1 1/2 hrs in Frederick, MD. It’s 3 1/2 hrs by bus.

I'm disabled, such that I **CANNOT DRIVE A CAR** and he's 100% right, quit using disability to justify an ugly status quo that makes the life of disabled people harder. its ugly behavior.

It's convenient for you to drive to all of those places, but that's an ableist & somewhat privileged view. bsky.app/profile/poli...

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In America, driving imposes large harms on the rest of society but especially on marginalized groups. Sometimes car brains will politicize the marginalized identity of some drivers (disabled, parents, elderly, poc) in order to defend car culture and oppose regulation on equitable grounds.

Kids stopped playing & biking outside YEARS ago. This has more to do with SM than cars. Kids don't even know how to have a conversation. If kids were still playing outside, cars wouldn't be so prominent in some areas & drivers would be used to kids being OUTSIDE so they would already be cautious.

No shit! Sun would rise Saturday Squnday cartoons over with and out the fucking door I went, see you at dinner! The pussies today couldn’t handle being kids in 60-70 just like they cant handle being adults today! No fucking skills zero

Children being denied freedom to wander about is less about cars/traffic than about fear of other people. That's compounded by social pressure about what other people think if you allow your 7 to 11 year old to go almost anywhere unaccompanied. If something happens parents will be blamed.

I walk daily and ‘right on red after stopping’ is merely a suggestion to most drivers. Nearly 100% cruise through with never a head turn to the right to see if a pedestrian is legally crossing.

True. I was in Lakewood, NJ, today and saw something unusual in today's society. Kids under the age of 13 walking about by themselves. It's common in the orthodox Jewish population to do this but we call the cops if other kids were running about.