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Sorry too late

The story of the US ferrying aircraft to Barrow, Alaska for Russians to take back to Europe is an incredible chapter of America and Canada at war. The Yukon’s littered with wrecks that didn’t quite make it.

Oh brother

Never forget that WWII started because Stalin and Hitler made a pact to carve up Europe between the two of them.

To say nothing of the huge numbers of these things that were lost when convoys were attacked and sunk. As well as the lives lost and lives ruined. The numbers are astounding and only add to the huge betrayal. And yet, no one in this current regime is demanding that they say "Thank you."

You forgot boots. orcs marched on US boots.

You’re an irredeemable piece of shit.

You forgot donald.

Why ?

Interesting

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List the countries that paid the Soviet Union reparations.

When will old school Republicans take back their party?

You forgot how many ships and men were lost providing this aid

But list the casualties!!

Since Trump? Why are the Republicans allowing this to happen?

Why has Trump not asked Russia to pay back their debt? Why? ... just asking...

STOP SIDE WITH RUSSIA

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They did. Russia during and shortly after WW2 isn't the same as today. Did the US thank the old Russia for their massive sacrifices that enabled the defeat of Nazi Germany? Probably not right?

Sorry TheRen, I should have known someone would beat me to it!

Blyat!

Yes they effectively did on repeated occasions.

Have we .?

WHAT??? This is redicoulas! I’m soooooo pissed!

7,000 tanks is a third of the total number of tanks in the Soviet army in 1945.

I know. Yes, he does. Not saying he doesn't.

Spot on 👍

Hey at least we are all fighting each other with thoughts and words rather than with swords, spears, guns, and bombs. Well except for Russia and Trump with tariffs. The US is going through some shit right now just like everyone does from time to time. We will be back, and you will be stronger.

Yes, your meaning was so difficult to determine. 😆

And up to a point, you are right. USA dominated western Europe, USSR dominated the east. In 1991 we started the PEACEFUL process of re-uniting Europe. De-armament was a requisite for that; you can't be friends with your neighbours when 90% of your weaponry is pointed at them.

Oh, and before you come with the #Trumpolini MAGA talking points: The EU was founded to protect us from the USSR, NOT the USA. The USA was our partner.

Europe remained a social democracy, taking care of its people, despite neo-liberalism. Next: De-armament was the reason Europe could re-unite after 1991. NATO was there to protect us. But de-armament was an important step. You can't re-unite friends if they are all armed to the teeth.

What you are talking about, is the separation during Reagan. Europe tried to stay on course with Social Democracy, the USA chose Capital Democracy. You & us were pretty much the same in development up to the 1970's. That's when you chose to boost the rich, instead of society.

Rewrite history as you please It was the 80’s elected leaders of Germany and the UK that voted to deploy IMF. Europe welcomed US defense forces with open arms. While failing to properly invest themselves You’ve been treated badly and insulted. But that doesn’t change the facts.

ps. JD #VanceIsaNazi needs to be hanged for him interrupting the New Leader of the Free World. Because the USA clearly has lost its freakin' mind. You made "Idiocracy" a reality. The world is not "entertainment". Fucking idiots.

Thank you. Because that's what I see, from our completely imperfect Europe. We are fighting fascism ourselves, and now lost our main ally in this?! HELP?

I promise. I was not taking offense. I just think the vitriol for a partner scorned can be irrationally harsher than is justified Good people of the US provided security for the collective West for decades. Now less good people have destroyed that. Doesn’t erase years of US taxpayer sacrifice

Fair enough

Before lend lease, the Soviet Union threw millions of bodies at German bullets. After lend lease, they threw fewer bodies.

And now Trump is going to build a Trump tower in Moscow

And how much did they charge them for this? Seems a bit of wasted effort now that Russia has a Nazi asset in the white house

As a German and friend of Ukraine I would like to ask: But the Russians are neither grateful nor respectful towards America. Especially during Cold War. Hasn't Trump noticed that yet?

“Without the American trucks and equipment we received, our armies would have faced insurmountable logistical obstacles. Those machines were as vital as the very air we breathed.” --Zhukov, The Destroyer of Berlin.

Did not realize that was the time frame of the post, but thanks!

They finally acknowledged the assistance after Gorbachev came to power.

The Soviet Union didn’t owe any of its “allies” a thank you. Americans should really sit down on this one. They should really sit down on everything.

In other words we were helping them defend from a German invasion. They were not out of the goodness of their hearts defending democracy in Europe. Then later they turned that help into a land and power grab post 1945 by establishing the Soviet empire in Europe.

Seriously. American steel, British brains, and Soviet blood.

1941 - 1945

Add: one US President, his administration & an entire political party.

My father was a CPO on a Navy escort ship for those convoys. It pissed him off no end that the Soviets never acknowledged the aid until Gorbachev came along.

Boy I bet payback on all that might take the deficit down a bit, ya think.

Yes indeed!! But, the US is making Russia great again just like 100 years ago with its technology transfer.

Figures

The least US can do is give Ukraine the same amount of arms to WIN THIS WAR NOW!

Rape, pillage, steal, lie: the soviet way!

And DJT wants a copy-cat version of this on June 14! Celebrating his own victory over the Republican party?

And we should thank them as well. Twenty-seven million citizens, plus our materiel, is what beat the Nazis

The revisionists would have believe the Soviets did it all on their own.

When I visited the Topography of Terror museum in Berlin, on the site of the old SS headquarters, the most shocking part for me was learning how so many Nazis, including people responsible for thousands of deaths, went on to live long lives in relative freedom, often escaping justice entirely.

Too bad FDR didn't have JD by his side nagging Stalin like a nasty grandma. "You should be grateful to Pres. Roosevelt!"

And how many Soviets gave their lives so Americans wouldn’t have to? We were allies. That was what allies did for one another.

Remember August 23, the date a pact was signed between the Nazis and the USSR to divide Poland so that this whole sorry mess got started.

Meanwhile all foreign aid for civilians via USAID is gone. An American friend in Zambia said people there are starting to starve. The summer crops failed due to drought and now no USAID. Soon there will be widespread humanitarian crises.

And the RCN/RN convoys that got most of the materiel to Archangel and Murmansk.

Seems like a lot.

Maybe you should have had the Germans bomb and invade you and starve you as per Leningrad. Fucking clueless entitled wankers

Don't worry, your party still has their back.

WTF had he done to our country?

The deuce and a half was the game changer

Yet, US didn’t sent even one fighter jet to Ukraine. Yes, Soviet dictatorship was more precious for them then democracy trying to break free from this dictatorship.

It was great that the Americans sent so many supplies. But I remember a line from War and Remembrance, where the American captain meets with Russians and notes that they are outfitted with Lend Lease clothes. The Russian responds "American uniform. Russian body."

We didn’t ask them for money in 1946 either.

A number of people in this thread missed your point Adam. I got it. Please explain further.

Start of USAID

Look at that massive trade deficit. The US got literally *nothing* in return! Thanks FDR /s

So how long before Russia is on our soil??? I'm positive Putin's fuck buddies in the WH are working on it.

And that's not counting the British aid

In what world would you have a great relationship with rent -a-center. Like rent a center wanting a thank you for making the loan.

Their victory day was when the allied forces took Berlin and divided up the city into sectors. Russia took the sector that surrounded Berlin..while France, Britain, and USA had smaller inside that sector.

I didn't see the Trump nuts. We all know Putin has them!

Yes why isn’t Putin asked to be more thankful!

I speak 5 languages. How many do you speak?

Most of that has been scrubbed from soviet / russian history.

Note that during that time, the soviets only built 3 locomotives. The 1900 plus locomotives were used to bring up supplies and troops to the fronts.

It’s funny that Putin never mentions how much Lend-Lease helped the Russians win the war.

Thanks for this reminder

And they didn't always say Thank you, either....they just wanted MORE and griped they were being short-changed.

Don't forget: ruZZia was a land-based Empire before it became the USSR. NOT a country. Nations don't want to expand their borders; they want to expand their well-being. Empires want to expand their borders.

OK, let me rephrase: They tried communism. In actuality, they tested a fascist government, not a socialist government. A socialist government gives people a voice. Europe is proud of their social(-ist) democracies. And very, very sorry for our fascist periods.

Which is why I implicated the respective govts and not the economic system. Unfortunately greed and corruption have been the constant throughlines there. It's been somewhat less of a problem here until recent decades, and especially in our current administration.

But they both exploited common people, governed by fear and secrecy and set goals to expand geopolitical control. Hardliners in the current government covet their lost satellite states and want them back. It's hard to pretend their are big differences when an ex-kgb agent has run Russia for decades.

Yep. Without the USSR, WE might be speaking german.