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We are living in the permaculture. New social networks build the feature set of Twitter 2016. Every movie is a sequel or a remake. So’s TV. The festival lineups don’t change. The retromancers won.

Janine Gibson@janinegibson.ft.com

14 years after I saw Pulp do a surprise turn at Glasto my daughter is doing the same what do you mean the culture is in stasis

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Glastonbury is so corporate it’s pointless. It’s the wee tiny festivals where you’ll find good music, from independent artists you’ll most likely not hear on the radio but have to seek out on YT or other sources for yourself.

There are thousands of acts at Glastonbury - so many stages now. It's still a really important part of the UK festival scene, with many new bands to seek out there as well as in smaller festivals which are also ace.

I prefer His&Hers to Different Class & rate 'Jarvis' album highly. So saw Pulp at a festival last summer. They were good but it felt like nostalgia. Then they release a great, self-aware, lead single, probably confident there is an audience albeit narky, middle-aged, disappointed. #Shouting&Pointing

Young audiences follow & subscribe to flows of entertainment media, trickle-funding them into stardom. The 'Old man, Old Band' crew want tangible artefacts that are recognisable & "shelf-worthy" or direct experiences that are pre-curated, comfortable & often hedge-funded, so everyone's a winner 😬🍿

Well, the fact your culture becomes hegemonic is surely the upside of approaching middle age. It’s your music in the pub, at the festival, etc. But while Pulp obvs ubiquitous because they’re great the rest of the cultural freeze feels like stagnation…

Not sure about that, there’s been “old” artists at the festival for decades, the fringes are full of extremely contemporary stuff (even if the avant-garde is only present in how it influences pop)

Right. The quintessential 80s Glastonbury act was Van Morrison. The "there's nothing new under the sun" argument is self-fulfilling. Mainstream criticism is still locked into second-half-of-20th century understanding of how innovation has to happen in major waves or revolutions but

After another brainless scroll through Facebook, I think nostalgia and the permanent availability of the past, when we were young and beautiful, our loved ones were still here, and the future was spread before us, is stunting our development and feeding nationalism and conservatism. We can't move on

Not sure this is true, at least with glasto this year. 2/3 of the pyramid and other stage headliners are doing so for the first time. I'm here and there is loads of new music drawing big crowds. Most people don't listen to much new music though, so only recognise the old names like Pulp and Rod.

Hankering for reminders, even repeats, of the past is culturally an entirely rational response to the doomladen menace of everything now accurately described as novel. At this AI-driven, for-the-few-not-the-many, planetary ruinous, rate we may soon be at the nadir, if not the end, of human history.

Agree to your point to an extent in regard to the mainstream, however there is so much new and exciting in film, TV and music if you just look below the surface. It's just not being served to us as readily as the things you're likely referencing.

IoW was pretty magical for me at my tender age. Sadly not the Dylan one but the year after and still very much in the spirit of Woodstock. Hitch-hiked and slept in a tent for the first time. While hitchhiking back, a coach to London broke down and I and my pal sneaked on to the replacement they sent