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yeah it looks like we have to start aggressively spreading the word bsky.app/profile/did:...

www.bbc.com/news/magazin...

Tell me about it. I've been taking Depo-Provera since 1999. Hormones definitely change you. Made me an asexual. 🤭

Hormones rewire your body and then rewire your mind. These are permanent biological changes. The transphobes cheering this decision ignore all of that.

I'm not trans but thanks to a fucking brain tumor I have gotten to experience hrt to maintain my gender. Started growing boobs and lost body hair when the tumor gave me the prolactin of a lactating woman. Along with the all to exciting dick problems too. The hormones literally changed my biology.

Literally the only stance on gender that matters is "people should be able to do what they want. Mind your own business" it doesn't NEED to be justified

Also focusing on the idea of "biological" anything suggests it's entirely binary. Regardless they didn't give a shit about women's sports before and they don't give a shit about it now.

and tbc I fully agree w/ u and don't wanna lessen the dramatic (amazing) physiological changes HRT has, I just wanted to add that even before or without any transition steps, a person can MEANINGFULLY change their biological sex or have always been the sex that matches their gender in the 1st place

"biological sex is immutable" actually its very mutable. the only thing that IS immutable are your sex chromosones

Defining an entire human's existence based on their genitalia's role in mammalian reproduction is the most smooth brain drooling idiot stance. Humanity is VERY CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY much much more diverse and complex than that.

I see this more in terms of linguistics. Words have the meaning we give to them. They are not "the thing." They are a sign pointing to the thing. By saying trans women are not women, they are denying us that role and that space. It isn't about what something is, but what you allow it to be.

"sex can't be changed" would be a valid point when hormone therapy wasn't real.

material sex characteristics were then. If we're making this sex has changed argument, which is true and so we should, then we need to be clear that it materially changes and changes our material circumstances. It's not retroactive

i think this point is where the sex/gender distinction can actually be useful rhetorically. I was always a girl even before I transitioned (even if i did not understand that at the time) but I was not yet female.

could be good to explain this to onlookers or addressing the audience more than itd be good to uhm actually you mean sex at birth to people who have an agenda

they also do reminded me so much of transphobia. It's the same bullshit all over, except it worked this time due to our "fellow" Americans hating us before all this.

It's a transposition of what sex means as a concept and current biology. "Your biology doesn't change just because you transition." But, in fact, it does change.

the only thing phobes believe is is in their hatred towards the groups they hate that comes first and everything else is literally made up after tue fact and on the spot as needed to justify the bigotry

yeah, so what?

even just saying "born a woman" shows their hand. nobody is born a woman. people are born as infants and the passage of time changes what that person is. a child's biology is not the same as an adults, but if they admit that they have to admit that biology is pliable

In german you say "geschlechtsangleichung" meaning "sex allignment" and I think it is more accurate of a definition

It's why it's commonly referred to as a "Sex Change"

True, anti trans rhetoric is so stupid. (i am trying to build a community of like-minded anti-fascists, so plz follow, i follow everyone back)

Trans liberation will destroy patriarchy The fascists are right to fear the collapse of their delusional rape regime society

I feel like the language is at least a partial issue, because until recently to me, “”biological male”” was the same as AMAB, but AMAB/AFAB is a much better description, and one that those freaks would never use

We do have different words for them. Sex and gender.

this is why i still do like and use transsexual though, even if its willingly misread it’s genuinely 100% accurate to what transitioning is

Reactionaries insist that "transgender" is a fetish too, so is it really that different?

What happens when people sitting on the fence so long the end of the post has reached the bend in their intestines try and reason or argue down genocidal fascists to some reasonable middle ground--it just gives them further ammo to push their policy through in degrees

Let’s prioritize solidarity.

Horrific misinterpretation of "sex is separate from gender." Even if libs don't fully understood the anthropological/sociological underpinnings of the statement it doesn't erase the reality of it.

Buying into the idea that sex *matters* is buying into the transphobes' framing. (Maybe excluding sports - but hey, it's not like 20 years of scientific research about *that* mattered to the 'phobes either)

the other problem with this framing being that conservatives are legitimately too stupid to understand the difference

It's basically "sex is your physical body, gender is your mind". Which kinda works, to some point.

it’s mostly a relic of online transgender discussion these days, but in the 2010s the average liberal defense of trans people was to outline the difference of gender and sexual biology and it’s just not helpful

oh, there's definitely a contingent of folks that like the word (see also: my handle)

it might have fallen off but i like it and use it!

i honestly think a lot of it was also just plain ignorance. i didn't learn a damn thing about how hrt changes your actual sex until i was on it (10 years after coming out as trans). i didn't think to push back against that rhetoric because i didn't know.

they don’t wanna hear it. they want sex and the associated roles to be innate and irrefutable so they can uphold patriarchal rule and reduce womanhood to the ability to reproduce. no amount of logic or shared knowledge will ever change their minds if it means they lose their grasp on power.

Gender essentialism is load bearing to the whole republican ideology, any acknowledgement of the fact that people can opt out of the hierarchy makes the whole thing come crashing down

The downgrading a permanent change to your physiology and sexual characteristic to ‘’gender preference” is just comical.

yes! been saying for years, a trans woman on HRT for a couple years has more in common with an infertile cis woman than EITHER woman has in common with a cis man. vice versa for trans men. it really cannot be understated how much HRT changes.

Sorry just got it, since sex is defined by bio. traits and hrt changes those traits (the visible ones which in a sociological context are the only ones that matter) which are part of sex, hrt effectively changes your biological sex i understand now i think

It changes some characteristics of sex not all of them, but ultimately it's about having absolute bodily autonomy and abrahamic ideology doesn't fit that

They don’t know what they’re talking about and will never care to find out They’re bigots to the core 🤢

The right wants to pretend that phenotypic sex doesn’t exist but it does and every human knows it.

I think people have just been bombarded with so much BS about “biological gender” that they just started adding it to their knowledge uncritically when it’s ACTUALLY biologically false Hormones play an enormous part in just about everything in body function and people just refuse to get it

Because that’s science and they dont want that in the conversation. It would immediately debunk their claims.

This idea used to give me so much grief that I will never, EVER believe anybody that says that they’re only trying to “help” trans people by reclassifying and talking over us. We are who we say we are.

A pretty easy one to point out is, if you look at my blood work thats checking a lot of typical body/organ functions, unsurprisingly all of it functions within typical female ranges.

Explaining to the roving gang that I am not a man, for no man could possibly have a dick this tight and shiny looking.

well, not birth sex because that'd require time travel but definitely biological sex

Same reason why I rather call it sex reassignment surgery... I've literally changed my sexed characteristics

yes, but it's not surprising that they don't give a shit about the science or how hormones actually change our bodies. that would require empathy and curiosity, and they only know disgust and outrage.

I mean when have they ever cared about what's true

Yo I learned a lot from this thread

Yeah but you can’t really claim to change sex without also having SRS…

It's so frustrating they can just choose to ignore inconvenient facts. We can provide the facts for them all we want about sex change operations, hormones and intersex people, but as long as they control the conversation, they can just plug their ears and go lalala and we cant do anythint about it.

Right? Or, if "womanhood" is purely the ability to birth a child, if we can do functional uterus transplants into BiOlOgIcAl MaLeS, would the fight be over?

Christianity is a fucking blight on society. i wish to live long enough to see organized religion banned and practicers ostracized. hell id love it if Christianity itself was made illegal and we persecuted believers just like roman times!! the romans were onto something they were cookin

absolutely not, they'd just shift the goalposts

*medication

Hey, remember what happened to Galileo?

It’s a spiritual thing to them. Even if trans women could do a full body swap they somehow thing they’re male like they have a male soul.

God I hope it does