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Anyone who thinks the NYC subways are scary does not ride the NYC subways. Or perhaps hasn't since the 1980s (and even then it wasn't as bad as people claimed).

Kat Tenbarge@kattenbarge.bsky.social

I cannot emphasize enough that the New York City subway is not scary. It’s one of my favorite parts of living here. I grew up in the suburbs having to drive on highways everywhere and that’s way scarier

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Originally from OH and now living in FL. I don't have much experience with mass transit, but every time I've been to NYC (5-6x now), I've been very happy with the subway. It's not hard to figure out. It's fast and efficient. I did have a homeless woman scream at me once, but that happens.

Scores of people die horribly on the roads every day, but you better believe Fox News will pound on any negative thing that happens in or around public transportation for at least a week.

The only thing a person needs to know about riding the subway is, if you see a totally empty car, or a half empty car, it’s that way for a reason you probably don’t want to experience.

Yup. Same. But people seem to think that the story of Bernie Goetz was that the Subways were crime ridden horrors, rather than the reality, that it was *nonsense media coverage* of the subways that led people like Goetz to assume they were crime ridden horrors.

So much crime! (No idea why the only gif I can find of this has this text. Really wish bsky would let us upload our own gifs already)

Weekdays after the evening rush could get a little tense back in the early part of the 80s. Most folks I knew had the number of a black car service handy for the ride home if they were going out after work.

As tourists my wife and I ride the subway all the time. They're full of visitors and people just trying to live their lives in a big city. My only gripe might be that getting to and from JFK via public transportation isn't very straightforward.

It's way more straightforward than it used to be! The JFK Airtrain only opened in 2003 and is so much better than old ways of getting there, but, yeah, if you don't know where you're going, it can be a bit confusing.

This. Spent several hours one day exploring the subway with my then 15 year old daughter the last time we were in New York. Was fine and we both enjoyed it.

I’ve ridden the subway alone at 3am and have never had something bad happen *to me* (one time my train hit someone*, but that obviously was a much bigger problem for them than for me) *they drunkenly decided to sit on the platform with their legs hanging over the edge.

Or maybe those who think that way have experienced better subways in other countries? Just because it was worse in 1980 doesn’t excuse it from being horrible now - especially in a city like NYC. It’s just a shame.

lived UWS for 2 years, rode subway almost every day, and loved it. Only small issue is the idiots that try to charge into a car before people get off – but whatevs. "Well New York City really has is all oh yeah, oh yeah" – Ramones

To be fair, one of the ways I learned to drive was being taken into Manhattan to learn, and I did find it useful in forcing myself to pay extra attention to everything. But yeah, beyond that...

been riding subways since 1962. back in 1960’s in crowded subways, sometimes a man (usually in suit and tie) would grope…So I employed hatpin to wherever and spike heel to top of offender’s foot. worked well. I have seen people have medical emergencies and be saved by fellow passengers..

This phenomenon of suburban kids raised to be afraid of the city (or whatever else their parents needed them to be afraid of in the hopes of keeping them safe) is fairly common, especially in cities where the press has historically hyped the inner city tensions (i.e. San Francisco, Minneapolis).

I've been a semi-dedicated rebel against this suburban fear mongering since I was 19 and could move to the city. And this was only a decade after truly worrying that the riots of the 60's would make it out to my suburban conclave (what did I know?).

My wife and I, living in San Francisco, have a fun ritual: Whenever we are out walking through the neighborhood and see something strikingly beautiful or wonderful (which is just about every time we go walking), we say aloud, "shithole city."

It's an awful place and everyone should stay away, and if you own real estate here please sell it for bargain bin prices so that we awful people might fill the space and protect the rest of you from the nightmare. Nobody wants to be here which is, obviously, why the rent is so high.

There’s so much disinformation/lies about NYC. I’ve heard grown men talk about not wanting to go to Manhattan because it was scary. I grew up there and never had an issue.

I rode the subway for years in the 60's and bad old 70's - through Brooklyn, through Upper Manhattan, even the Bronx late at night. I'm still here, unscathed.

But they don't notice the feeling of danger anymore. I like this framing: What if 85% of the stress in your body is, in fact, just residue from driving? Maybe the life-or-death nonconsensual street race you participate in multiple times a day does, in fact, have some collateral consequences.

And what if your suburban experience of humanity, competing, not communicating except through hand gestures, encased in metal and glass, cursing each other in isolation, is not a good or holistic representation of your fellow citizenry, nor does it reflect people's ability to engage collectively.

I’m from England and visited NYC for a couple of months in the early 90s. Loved the city, loved the subway. Rode it everyday, mostly in Manhattan and Queens. Loved the drivers announcing the next stop. They didn’t do that in London back then.

it's both true that Real New Yorkers have perceptual filters which cause them to ignore a bunch of stuff that is shocking to people who aren't desensitized to it (e.g. people pissing on a busy sidewalk in broad daylight), and that by and large you can simply mind your own business with no ill effect

Maybe New Yorkers should try and elect politicians who actually want to the help the homeless and the mentally ill. It seems like the two options on offer are ignore or persecute and neither are acceptable

Given the gothamist stories that have come out, NYC subways are scary, but more in a: "You are running them on a what, using what??" "Our circuit breakers (not fuses, breakers!) routinely explode, so we've had to cover them with abestos to prevent fires."

Yeah - the entire system appears to be held together with some duct tape and a paper clip, but I love it here and would never leave.

In the 15 years I lived in NY, I only had one scary experience on the subway. A bunch of teenagers thought they'd try to intimidate me in an empty car. I calmly got up and left the car at the next stop . They followed me.

Just so happened a cop came through the turnstile at that moment. I pointed at the group and said, "Those guys are following me." All of them jumped right back on the subway. The cop pulled his radio and called into the next station. They were pulled off the train, I id'd them, & off they all went.