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We’re gonna get people begging to have speed limiters put in their car.

"I view the speed limit as a guideline" explains everything. We are dealing with entitled piece of shit here. He is the reason we need speed cameras in the first place.

Here even DUI is an edgy administrative offence, not too serious; not a real crime. There - your friends and colleagues would disassociate from you.

Yeah they did answer the other person's question and the reality is they just don't like traffic laws (speed limits at least) and dont want them enforced. Once you know that you can basically ignore everything else theyre saying as motivated reasoning based on that

I actually think it’s mostly a jurisdictional thing, and just the police department here doesn’t see it as a priority. Based on the cars I see doing it, I doubt it’s primarily a function of their wealth and influence.

What's an ass-sign? I'm scared to google it.

The best thing to do is to progressively increase the level of fines until speed cameras generate no revenue at all.

In Ontario, our conservative Premier ripped out all the speed cameras that he approved and then people went right back to speeding. Today's conservatism is 100% about using the law to punish outsiders and reward insiders.

I do think at least some of it comes from people inherently realizing that A) there are a ton of bullshit speedtraps and B) american roads are built to actively encourage speeding, but IMO thats why you fix A and B and not go against basic ticketing cameras

*nodding*

more speed cameras with more signs please.

There's clear signage for them in Pawtucket where they have them but I don't think the specific camera is painted or obvious. I don't mind them in theory, but at least in RI, they've been known to make errors, and the legal standard for the tickets is so low that even provable mistakes get ignored.

In the UK they are all painted bright yellow (the point I think being they are supposed to disincentivise speeding on the spot rather than in retrospect) but don't actually say SPEED CAMERA on them.

And in the UK, as well as a sign before them, the cameras have to be painted yellow for high visibility. I'm struggling to see why a driver would rather deal with a cop than a notice in the mail.

I really think this is a big part of people’s resistance, what they imagine is randomly placed hidden cameras that will send you a $200 ticket for going 36 in a 35 while they’re being passed rather than what actually exists

One small town in Colorado got caught playing games with the signage. When it became a big news story they ended up voiding ALL the tickets. 😊

But what if I don’t want to concentrate or even mildly focus on the driving task. It’s soooo boring behind that wheel.

Rich people would get scotus to say it violates equal protection or something.

Road tax (whatever you call it - annual fee for licensing your care) is already scaled by CO2 emissions per mile here in the UK. We won't demand a royalty if you copy that one.

I prefer speed cameras, whose rules are predictable, to police stops, which are arbitrary and capricious and can go wrong in a thousand different ways.

The Finnish speeding ticket sliding scale is my go to when explaining that deterrents have to hurt to be effective. A $100 ticket looks real different at different incomes. Also, it’s not a cash grab if people actually change behaviour (which they do). p.s. applies to other laws (e.g. env. fines)

This is the most car brained interaction I have ever seen.

I think a slightly overlooked aspect is the framing of "lead foot" as some kind of physical or mental condition and not a choice a person makes to operate heavy machinery in a dangerous manner.

It’s all one big round of “but speeding isn’t that bad - I speed all the time!” Believe me I get that a lot of speeding is due to bad road design, but also you don’t get to do something illegal as a treat if that thing regularly causes injury and death.

I just visited Helsinki for a week. I come from Germany, and it feels so much better to use a Zebra crossing there. Cars are driving only 30 kilometers/hour and they are very cautiously near them.