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true, but depends on convention. this type of turn across traffic is common across much of Germany

Oh, good gawd. '...head for the marked waiting area' on the right...if you want to turn left. Whit??

FYI see international.kk.dk/live/transpo... for Copenhagen. "It is illegal to make a direct left turn at an intersection. Ride straight across to the opposite right corner of the intersection, stop and wait for the traffic light to turn green before you go".

Looks like that one needs more magic paint. Perhaps a touch of blue?

I dunno, I always thought they reinforced predictable behaviour by less confident cyclists by accommodating it in the road system without rebuilding an entire junction. Not perfect by any means, and you always have the choice to just stay with the rest of the traffic.

It's effectively the council saying, 'We didn't bother to design this junction properly, therefore as a cyclist you compensate for our inadequacies by taking a convoluted route for what should be a simple maneuver.'

Round here motorists just use them as extra space to sit in traffic jams (the road to the left has a red light and cycle lane a green at this point)

Is the skid turn optional or mandatory?

My favourite thing about the magic paint at junctions is how after about 2 months of vehicles turning across it, it's largely all worn out and disappeared anyway. Those epoxy resin surface coatings go just as fast too.

Or even a bike where the saddle is above crotch height when your feet are on the floor.

I did wonder what that was. I just turn right. Usually carefully when the lights are red and all the traffic is stopped.

What is it intended for? I can't actually think what it would be used for otherwise.

I see it! maps.app.goo.gl/SHwRtTj1k8i7...

my thoughts exactly

Yes, form an orderly queue, but in the middle of the road with no room to queue

This doesn't at address the problems that cyclists have to see behind them and drivers need to be looking sideways. The Dutch roundabout model that ensures all bike/car interactions are at 90° makes that work naturally.

If they can't/ won't do a proper protected junction then that's my personal preferred way of making an improvement on the cheap - of course adding 5s on to the traffic light signal cycle is probably anathema to a council active transport "improvement"

This only works if you get to the lights and they're red. If they're green then the video method is actually decent because it adds very little time and theres no lane changes needed and you get to do the turn ahead of cars. Either way it's not mandatory, i'd only use it when its busy

Cars will still be crossing the previous phase on red when the advanced green begins.

I just saw the photos. Oh. Oh no.

The 2 stage right turn is the standard at nearly all Copenhagen junctions (and least understood by tourists). I'm not a great fan but for Copenhagen it works due to the unique way their junctions work and the Danish culture of following rules (backed up with steep fines).

In fairness, the two-stage right turn is in the national Scottish guidance and the two-stage turn has its place, but I would really want to see it as an interim design,

This is bollocks and will be ignored entirely.

Picardy Place!

Just let bikes go first on a green bikes only light? Too simple?

That’s number wang!