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Weird that the tech industry in the US is full of this "work is life" mentality, but also full of "people should have more babies" pro-natalist weirdos. You'd think at least some of them could see the contradiction.

Biglaw billable hours: To achieve 2,200 billable hours, an associate would work from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. each day, added to two Saturdays per month from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., which still would leave the associate a bit short. So add another Saturday for 10 months.

Bacl when I coded hospital software I got more done in 6 focused hours per day than other coders putting in 12. The longer and more exhausting my days the less I got done in a week. People that insist on hour quantity over focus quality don't understand efficiency and how our brains function.

I solved problems faster by sleeping on a difficult issue than pushing until it was done. Our minds process data better during rest and sleep without exhaustion and stress. We know this scientifically, but buisiness people who don't use their brains to produce see hours like they are dollars.

They think the more you give them the more they are getting for their money, but in the end the more they demand the lower the quality and tge longer it takes to produce good functional work.

I’ve found that my bosses are getting around 40 hours of productivity out of me no matter how many hours I work. That’s not being rebellious or anything, it’s just that if I’m working long hours, the productivity drops off a cliff. Squirrel brain starts becoming a thing

Das ist ein klassischer Teufelskreis - wir arbeiten so viel, dass wir uns selbst ersetzen können, aber dann werden wir selbst ersetzt, bevor wir's schaffen. Ist das der Preis für die Effizienz?

It was very funny at business school the kids who wanted to work at startups like “what are you bringing to thr party? You can’t code you got a b- in accounting you’re boring in general”. I guess they can bring the drugs??

It's as though the end game for oligarchs is entirely worker subjugation. Leading to that limitless minority control they desire. bsky.app/profile/wire...

WIRED@wired.com

In an industry once known for cushy perks, some founders are now asking staff to commit to a 72-hour weekly schedule. You’re either in or you’re out. www.wired.com/story/silico...

Years ago I had a job interview with Microsoft at their Redmond campus. This was for a software tester position. The interviewer showed me around and I noticed several cots setup in offices of their gaming division. The interviewee told me this was common for their team to work very long hours.

And in other news: bsky.app/profile/more...

More Perfect Union@moreperfectunion.bsky.social

Thousands of workers tried a 4-day week, and their mental and physical health improved. A study tracked 2,896 workers across 141 organizations for six months. Reducing the work week by 8 hours led to better physical and mental health, with no loss of productivity. www.newsweek.com/four-day-wor...

Icelander here, this article overdelivers. The 4 day work week only applies to a small portion of the work force. Most work a 40 hour week (including breaks) with 24 to 30 paid holidays a year. Overwhelmingly, workers are members of unions which is the key to maintain a strong middle class.

I worked for an AI startup that began as a very cool remote job, we got flown out to Spain, Italy, and Germany to meet coworkers, we set our own hours, had truly unlimited vacation... by the time I quit they were demanding we take laptops on vacation, work weekends, and pay raises stopped.

It was absolute garbage. Of course, they blamed everyone but themselves for it. I worked with some incredible people, all but one of the original staff I hired on with had either left or been fired at my time of quitting. And I'm pretty sure there was a coldplay concert situation going on there too.

The problem isn't that braindead rich people demand that, but that millions of people DON'T think it's outrageous to even suggest it, and a good portion of them would be happy to participate. Which will cause it to become more and more "normal" and expected of everyone of us.

I used to work very long days. It's a younger person's life. My body suffered and can't do it anymore. There were 30 hour shifts to fix urgent issues

Software engineers are well paid relative to everybody else, but if the richest people in the world got their money mostly by charging more money for software than they pay those who write it, software engineers may still be an underpaid (or abused, as here) profession

P.S. In some alternate reality where WIRED ever made me do this (which, to be clear, they wouldn’t!), please know there would be subtle cries for help hidden in future posts. I’m a soft life gal, lol. Read the full article: www.wired.com/story/silico...

wired.comSilicon Valley AI Startups Are Embracing China’s Controversial ‘996’ Work ScheduleIn an industry once known for cushy perks, some founders are now asking staff to commit to a 72-hour weekly schedule. You’re either in or you’re out.

I don’t work for a startup, but if I did and that was part of the job description (or if it was made known during the interview process), my answer would be a hard “Aw HELL No.” Wouldn’t even apply, or just laugh and walk out.

That's why they are hiring so many people with H1-b visa holders. Start-ups are being exploitative as China, with the appeal of the US, and all the world population to burn through.

How is it even possible to find 72 hours to devote to this sort of product, are all of these people in sales? A competent app for this would take a single experienced dev a week to launch working normal hours.

WORK HARDER, SERFS, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOUR MASTERS The whole premise of "time spent = productivity" is so insanely performative as to be immediately discounted. These are the same people telling us that AI will make us more productive, with the subtext, "so I can profit more from your labor"

I cut down from 40 to 32 at the end of my employment years and it was still too little too late. I work about 10 hours a week for myself now and have a much healthier balance with a bout double the hourly pay I was making while employed by someone else. Turns out my skills are valuable to patients

Working really well for China. Young people are adopting the phrase "Tang Ping" which means lying flat. They aren't buying into that mentality anymore.

It's not about productivity and hasn't been for decades. It's all about control. A tired, overworked population that spends most of their time at the office won't have the opportunity to change or even question the status quo.

A lot of tech bros aren't very smart or at all. They might have one good idea (though novelness is unlikely, ie "a bank but online!") Understanding the wider world, people, how systems function, out of the question.