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It’s a stretch to say it’s democracy’s fault. The system allows for change. Strengthening laws and basic human rights in the constitution needs to happen so one extreme or the other can’t effect them. This includes women’s rights.

Worth also pointing out that people have been sentenced to death for crimes they didn’t commit. www.nationalgeographic.com/history/arti...

Rich people are NEVER executed. NEVER. That's the problem with capital punishment.

It's only the charlatans who want to bring it back because it panders those who want simple sounding solutions like Brexit. They're good reasons why we got rid of it. Mistakes were made, appeals are very costly. And also some jurors don't want to feel responsible for another person's death.

Create me a perfect criminal justice system which CANNOT make mistakes nor be manipulated or weaponised and we can then talk about introducing the power to make such permanent decisions. Until then nope, not for me

Guillotines anyone? Are the People for guillotines

The people in power that would abuse it are counting on that penalty not being used in defense against the power they wield. They would be more traumatized than us if it were, having been reminded that no one is exempt from that experience. We are being reminded daily.

Different people oppose it for different reasons. Some are opposed in principle, not just because of mistrust of authorities.

I'm against it because I don't think we should be killing anyone.

And killing an innocent person is unforgivable. It's just not worth the risk

AND MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE

it's the most premeditated form of murder there is. and it's already been proven to NOT stop murder.

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It’s just wrong to take a life. Punish, yes. Kill, no. Let them live to regret or reform.

Like Florida Governor DeSantis. He has achieved his goal of signing the most death decrees EVER last year and this year.

yep, i recently explained this to one of my younger maga brothers.. i WANT the government and laws to be the brakes on ending another's life.. the "rule of laws" maga crowd do not believe in rule of law.. they're nothing but a bunch of overgrown south park's cartmans.. "respect my authoritaayyyy..🤮

A handful of us are against it for moral qualms.

Amen.

I agree and also it’s super expensive

Amen to that.

And has been.

That’s the problem with the U.S., afraid of your own government and so have got the 2A in case you have to kill each other. The issue with the death penalty is that government shouldn’t execute people. Should be banned as cruel and unusual punishment, not paranoia of it being turned against you.

We have a nurse in jail here in the UK for killing babies. Bookmark this post - she will be cleared in a couple of years. Her defence was atrocious. share.google/6PhRsCHzxORF...

You should be against it because it doesn't solve any problems.

The only thing that will restore America is the treasonous regime being appropriately punished for their crimes. The only appropriate punishment for what they have done is death.

This has always been the case and the US is a prime example of it. The number of innocent people jailed and /or executed is mind boggling for supposedly civilized country.

"Evil" peolpe absolutely do not deserve to die. Period. Shame on you for even suggesting that.

Obviously, state-sponsored murder does not work as a deterrent, as we have some of the highest murder and prison population numbers in the world. "Do what we say, not what we do" does not work for ten-year-olds either.

Yes. In all seriousness, #Galloween is satirical, although some people should never be free again. 🌚 ⚖️🗽

All of these reasons. Also "in for a penny" ie having killed once a murderer has no reason not to kill again to evade justice, and the "see, violence is sometimes justified" message that can encourage violent offenders not deter them.

The problem I have with the death penalty is that our system for judging these people that are being executed is flawed and innocent people are being punished. Going to jury duty has shown me that I would not want my life to be dependant on a jury. Many of the jurors are unfit to serve as jurors.

Innocent people have been put to death. How do you square that? From a fiscal standpoint it cost more with endless court appeals

And too many mistakes have been made. I don’t support the death penalty for any crime.

When you give the government the right to kill one person you give them the right to kill anybody they choose.

There's also the inconvenient part of the government killing innocent people who were falsely accused. Or a psychotic president who's lost his mind.

That's why I recoil when people celebrate bad guys dying in videos Online because it's pretty uncomfortable how people seem to love seeing undesirables die. Take that too far, and...

If you f**k a child your punishment should involve a public square, a sharp knife and piles of stones. Nothing will change until we start doing this.

Will the pedo and his toads get the death penalty, by firing squad?

With the way the country is now, we either get a death penalty, or a life-long sentence in prison that is basically a death penalty. Removing the death penalty in our system is not a win, it is a drain. We need a reform that works toward the Nordic system.

I don’t think evil people should be put to death by other people. It’s not our call. It’s as uncivilized as many forms of surrender to primal urges. Time to evolve.

You know they kill us regardless of whether the death penalty exists, right?

That’s why the death penalty should be abolished. Maybe if every corrupt member of the current administration, their accomplices in the house and Senate , and their oligarch owners were to suffer by such an unthinkable abuse of power in 3-4 years, the will to ban it would finally be found.

We've seen several recent cases of the fed gov't trying to prosecute *obviously* innocent people. I think they would not hesitate to kill them as well.

The death penalty taints the souls of everyone involved: the judge, the jury, the law enforcement officers, the prison officials, the executioners…. It is an expanding wave of evil that hurts everyone it touches. That’s why it’s bad.

Nah, evil people don't deserve to die. No one does. It's the responsibility of the state to ensure that justice is not merely vengeance, or even reciprocity.

I am against it for 2 simple reasons. If you have a system of morality that says it is wrong to kill people, then the government should stand by this. Also if a person is falsely convicted you cannot re-alive them.

And because the court system has proven its inability to keep factually innocent people off of death row.

And Trump would build showers just like the Nazis.

a death penalty to remove from society those we deem too dangerous to live, would presuppose a system whereby only those clearly guilty of violence and deemed still dangerous would be executed. Instead, we have a system in which the fact of sentencing is the rationale for the state to murder.

and when you think about it, people who have done truly horrendous things ought not be able to just die

What gets me is the ant-choice (anti women's rights) people are usually pro death penalty and do not see the irony.

The pardon power needs reform. In Canada technically the Governor General (or governor, for provincial jurisdiction) can grant it on the PM's advice using the royal prerogative but he doesn't since the process is legally regulated through the parole board.

When controlling for all Factors, it falls disproportionately upon POC. And we have knowingly executed leil who were not guilty. It does not act as a deterrence. It is a scourge.

and also courts like to disproportionately sentence minorities and also so many innocent people are convicted there's a whole ass org working cases 24/7/365. they've assisted or won the release of 20 individuals from death row (out of over 250 total DNA-based exonerations nationwide).

It already is being abused by those in power!

And they change the offenses punishable by death.

And would be abused by this administration!!!

The fundamental problem with the death penalty is that “the state” doesn’t kill people, real people kill people. We, as a society, put these people’s mortal souls at risk for the spurious purpose of vengeance.

Not "can be abused", it is "will be abused. Based upon decades of proof."

We have a problem where we have people who repeat multiple violent crimes and are not taken off the streets. We need the death penalty for those mentally competent. For those that are crazy but refuse treatment we need mental institutes. Don’t let the wolves walk free to dine on the sheep.

Let's just make 2 countries The United States of America The Nationalist States of America It is time to separate and pursue happiness We don't need to fight the Civil War We need to end the Civil War We are not the same and need two different countries

The death penalty seeming even more terrifying after obamas attorney general successfully argued in court that due process doesnt necessarily mean judicial process. Especially since that was about targeted execution of an american citizen and his child abroad.

Take Texas for example...

Actually it’s both.

Also in an imperfect justice system, the ability to appeal a sentence must be absolute. You cannot appeal a death sentence after the fact, in any meaningful way to the accused.

Uh. Close. But - If killing people is wrong, it makes no sense to use it as a punishment.

I'm 100% against the death penalty. Most 'civilized' countries banned it long ago

Woah, woah, I am *absolutely* against the death penalty because I don't think people deserve to die. ANYONE having control over death is bad and should be rejected on ethical grounds at all turns. Doctors are morally bound to keep you alive, civilisation's goal should be to preserve life.

i have heard that god said an eye for an eye, right? if god wanted those people to die, isn't got powerful enough to take care of it? once the bad person is controled, it becomes murder for a murder?

Or if killing a human is wrong then killing a human is wrong!

there's also the exonerations of people with death penalties, indicating that a certain percentage of them are literally innocent

My sister was a sociology professor. She used to say it costs more to execute someone than to keep them in jail for life. Why? Because so many death-row cases get appealed all the way up to SCOTUS, and the lawyers' fees cost the taxpayer a freaking fortune.

The real objection, certainly from me, is that if you get the conviction wrong it’s too late to rectify. Here in the UK there have been such recent cases; brought about by the use, and later improvement, of DNA analysis. I’d rather have any number of the guilty “let off” than get just one wrong!

Exactly!

Yet explain the murders of protesters and immigrants in the city streets of America with absolutely zero accountability. It has to stop.

If the death penalty is in the books, then the state literally has the right to kill you. Plus qualified immunity grants police to kill you with no consequences either

"The state doesn't have he right to kill" Cool, now do war

I'd consider supporting it if it applied to prosecutors who withhold exculpatory evidence in capital cases.

I'm all for it as soon as they can bring the wrongfully convicted back to life...

And some of us believe both. Along with my concerns about political abuse, I also believe that no human has the right to determine the time of death of another unless in immediate self defense. This is the essence of what makes murder wrong in the first place.

What's the penalty for treason and how many now stand accused of it?

Obviously they’re confused and the death penalty they want is called assassination!

Speak for yourself. There are many reasons why "we" might be against the death penalty.

I am against it as I think it is too kind to murderers. Let them rot in jail for the rest of their lives. The UK is guilty of executing a mentally incapacitated man (Derek Bentley) for the death of a police officer when the police knew it was his under-age companion who did it (unintentionally).

And it’s applied in a racist manner.

Certain people need to be locked alone in a 7x12 cell for life and never allowed to see the sky again, and I think the death penalty would let them off too easy. For everybody else, prison should be rehabilitative not punitive b/c our society is actually incredibly dysfunctional.

I'm against the death penalty because too many innocent people have been released from long prison sentences for crimes they didn't commit. You can't bring an innocent person back from dead.

Too many innocent people have been killed. It’s not about justice, it’s about revenge.

At the end of trumps first disaster he and Bill Barr ramped up the executions of people on death row. Anyone acknowledge exactly how sick he is?

Anyone that is against the death penalty should spend a few weeks in solitary. I've done it. My opinion is informed. Charles Manson was held in solitary for DECADES. It's inhumane punishment. International courts have said so. Jeff Dahmer, John Gacy, there is just one humane solution. #Death

And that we’re against innocent people being killed!

We're also against it because it's more expensive to implement and those who are later found innocent can't be brought back to life.

Lots of good arguments against the death penalty. The one I think merits it is presidential pardon power. Nobody can be pardoned out of a cemetery. Those child rapers currently in power should NEVER be able to walk free. The only way to 100% ensure that is death.

There’s just a lot of hate in this world.

And has been numerous times! ONCE is too many!

Not to mention,we seem to convict innocent people from time to time !!

Especially now that we’ve seen how juvenile, capricious and heartless those in power can be.

Well said!

It has been already.

Karmelo Anthony got of easy. Murdered in cold blood.

I'm against the death penalty for those reasons. I am only for the death penalty if it immediately prevents more people from dying or suffering. Therefore, deterring conservative elites from raping children and killing more people via a controlled death penalty is warranted.

Absolutely! NO death penalty!

There are so many examples of how fallible our justice system can be. Even juries are wrong sometimes. I can't in good conscience send someone to their death knowing that I might have been given false information.

I'm not in favor because of project innocence. Way too many innocent people of color and poor people in general end up on death row because they can't hire the good lawyers.

Really? That’s not why I’m against it. Or anyone else I’ve ever known.

That aside, I resent the fact that a deranged worthless POS like Levy is left alive and incarcerated at enormous expense for up to say 50 years whilst many of us keep our fingers Xd that another inmate will do the job the Government shrinks from !!

And there is no recourse if the government is wrong and the standard should be ”zero percent wrong” The government has never achieved that goal

Exactly!

"Evil people deserve to die" is plain wrong headed for multiple reasons.

Not to mention the USA showed us what a shitshow that is. How many innocent people have been killed, especially those of colour?

Additional there is always the chance of a error. There have been enough cases where later someone was proven not guilty.

I'm also against killing "evil" people. We shouldn't kill anyone, period.

Opened doors allow anything to come in.

I also worry about the possibility of an innocent person being killed in a state-sanctioned ritual.

I'm against the death penalty because redemption is possible. I've met multiple people convicted of murder who lead productive lives. One man I know supports four children, his wife, his mother and her parents.

I'm against it because for all of history wrongly convicted people have also been killed.

There's only one country that not only has several methods of execution but leaves people on death row for many years until their appeal time runs out: that is the USA. No country in the free civilised world kills anyone anymore, it's evil and barbaric.

This regime is already doing it, bombing boats in South America with purported drug smugglers, without evidence. And even with evidence, it's WRONG.

That and if murder is wrong, it's wrong for everyone.

Good bring back the death penalty. That's the sentence for treason.

Getting rid of the ECHR & Kemi & Chris or NF, BJ & “Lord” Yusuf (nobody would vote for him) will be performatively volunteering to pull the levers themselves We’ll have multiple executions as half time entertainment

No one deserves death.