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Ohhhhhhh of course

A very useful book I consulted years ago classified certain breeds as “unsuitable for first-time owners,”usually because they were smart, potentially aggressive guard dogs. We took that seriously and got Basset Hounds: not Einsteins, and docile.

Yeah so for girls *rolls eyes in Steinbeck* (also my neighbors have a standard poodle and it's great)

Maybe, but that's an awfully broad brush. We got doodles specifically because our breeds are relatively lazy, matching our lifestyles. They love their walks, but they also love to lounge.

But… my sheepadoodle. He would be too big and shed too much without the doodle but he wouldn’t be a sheep without the sheep.

What a motley crew of good pups!

Standard poodles are great! You just don’t have to give them that stupid haircut!

Which is *really* funny given that poodles were bred as hunting dogs and are one of the best duck dogs you can get.

my sisters-in-law both got goldendoodles because they were supposed to be smaller than standard poodles, but only one of them worked out that way and the other one is just a standard poodle who happens to be a gorgeous golden brown

(I've met lots of nice doodles too. But the prices charged for them are ridiculous, and they're not as predictable as people want them to be. I suspect a lot of the same people would be happy with a poodle as well.)

This is good to know!

Our doodle does NOT shed and we have half our sinuses thankful for that factor. Also, we have NEVER vacationed at Disney, thank you very much.

I grew up with a cockapoo, way before "doodles" were a thing. Doodles are definitely trendy, but are great options for folks who have allergy concerns and want a mixed breed dog.

Yes!!

I just want happy healthy puppers that aren't riddled with inbreeding problems

Their general reputation nowadays is very much “highly unlikely to bite” (which is why they’re pretty useless working dogs but great pets)

Our rough collie was extremely easy to train to be a family pet and quite low energy, which is what they’re known for nowadays. Super different from border collies, which are still very much a working breed.

Which can turn sad for any potential Huskies involved, I've volunteered enough at a shelter over the years to know for a fact those types are never prepared for the siren wail.

But I guess it’s possible they figure if they have to get the “girly” dog the doodle has less “snob” stereotypes attached to it? Haha I’ve just never personally met a dude who expressed strong opinions about poodles and not doodles (granted, I’m not the one buying a dog with them)

Like, people who act like it would be “elitist” to get a poodle and give you a speech about purebred dog being unhealthy, then turn around and spend $5000 on a trendy backyard puppy mill mutt

My experience is that they're "known" as having the benefits of poodles' allergy-friendliness, which does attract a particular venn diagram of middle class health-conscious person x the type of person that thinks you can mix and match traits in a dog like a build-a-bra

I need a hypoallergenic dog, so I would consider one of these, but I will buy a dog, so I am keeping my eyes on the shelters for options.

As I recall poodles were French hunting dogs and their distinctive cuts were the way owners identified their dogs.

Can confirm, dad thinks poodles are too girly and got a cockapoo (also brought home with no warning and I ended up having to raise her). He learned quick, she seized and nearly died within 24 hours of bringing her home. She's ok now but I've put my foot down. Ethical breeders only.

You can take my Bernedoodle from my cold dead hands

Im going to start calling people roundhead currs.

Bite him peper

Definitely! It has to be a dog he can picture taking on a fishing trip

I’ve been saying this for YEARS

100% stand with this take Faine. Thank you for your dog opinion bravery

I'd say it's because the people who heard about the first guy doing it /carefully/ decided they could sell mutts for thousands along with a bill of goods that resemble a bridge in a swamp. And the dog-ignorant bought those swampy bridges in droves.

The ones I’ve known have been amazing dogs.

If I had the energy I had at 40, I’d definitely have a standard poodle. Lamb cut only. Now a miniature would wear me out

And doodle mutts are high-maintenance dogs! My FIL got a golden doodle from a backyard breeder and that dog is unhinged. He refused to train her and she jumps on and nips visitors relentlessly. I had to sit on my hands to hide them from her the last time I visited. 😩

Yeah they'll happily breed dogs that have resource guarding issues and hip dysplasia. I think bernerdoodles are the most unethical of the doodles because of the size and structure differences between the parents. 😥

It's that poodles are not considered a "biddable" dog & are capable of making their own decisions even if they follow directions from humans, whereas a lot of retrievers like goldens & labs are "biddable" and they really don't want to make their own decisions.

for the love of all that is holy, if you get a dog that’s going to be 70 pounds or more, teach it about NOT JUMPING UP ON PEOPLE from early days!

and even the ones who genuinely don’t shed get pretty dirty pretty fast and have to be bathed every couple weeks if not weekly

poodles are awesome smart dogs provided proper care. doodles are sweet but dumb as rocks and tend to be a bit neurotic in one way or another

My family fostered poodles growing up and even the small ones get ridiculously territorial! We adopted one of our fosters (she was VERY OBVIOUSLY My Mom's Dog from like, minute one) and we ended up having to stop fostering because she WOULD NOT tolerate other dogs being near Her Person

My dad's poodles have all be nice dogs and good dogs but also too smart for their own good and a giant pain in the ass.

After years in the dog industry, I can say that the "they're hypoallergenic" thing is a big part of it too, along with Dude Approval. Doodles are a way to nostalgically get your childhood dog (a lab, a golden) AND feel clean / pure.

Sounds like something someone who has never met an actual poodle would say. Toy poodles, sure, but those aren't the same thing any more than a "doodle dog" is. And no self-styled manly man wants a dog with doodle in its name.

Standard poodles are awesome dogs. And they look cooler than Doodles. Hell, they were bred as hunting dogs and some of the top field trial dogs in the world are poodles. (And my very good girl is about to cross the rainbow bridge.)

It's better than the status quo of dog breeding, which is "recapitulate the Habsberg monarchy family tree, but with extra racism"

they’re awesome dogs and he should get over it

See also on the “doodles are all hypoallergenic” myth www.vetstreet.com/dr-marty-bec...

so many doodles are neurotic messes as well because the boom in popularity led to massive overbreeding by unethical "breeders".

Or bougie crossbreeders dumping undesirable puppies. This is my rescue Coby and we think he was a breeder dump. He was rescued from a kill shelter in TX and brought to Long Island. I've had him for a month and a half now. DNA test is on the way. Not sure if he's poodle or doodle.

My dog is incredibly friendly and wants to jump on every single human on the planet (he's 10 pounds, by the way). I realize not every person likes dogs, so I always restrain him and ask if it's okay for him to come up and say hi. Why doesn't everyone do this with their dog?

If I had a dollar for every time someone said, you just don’t like dogs 🥺 Um, no, I just like breathing!

I'm allergic to dog dander. A freshly washed dog is usually fine! A dog that's run/rolled in grass pollen or flower/shrub/tree pollen just brings those allergens with them.

As a dog owner - not ok, allergic or not owners need to control dogs, people have genuine fear or dislike - which is fair enough. I like dogs but not jumping at me. Ditto cats or other animals though tbf.

Same dog (accompanied by my parents’ gorgeous Dalmatian, Patty)