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oh no, did the tankies find your posts

I legit bounce from most online eng taiwan discourse. Its too dumb lol

So this explains the bevy of Taiwan related posts currently adorning my feed.

What was the deleted post you were quoting?

Hasan Piker

I have read it’s very progressive re: LGBT+ rights, which the mainland government isn’t I think the people of Taiwan ought to determine who runs Taiwan but tankies gonna tank I guess

It comes from a false analogy, where they claim the Chinese civil war is equivalent to the American civil war. They claim that Communist China was like the Union, fighting against a pro-slavery adversary, the Kuomintang/CSA.

I imagine it started with something like "imagine if at the end of YOUR civil war some outside power who supported the losing side froze the conflict just short of complete victory and the CSaa endured in Texas" by way of helping Americans understand the PRC's view of Taiwan.

Just a note I think Sarah Paine lectures are okay as part of a good curriculum in present day theory of war; she very much is a Clauscewicz of these times; but she is also very much addicted to historical constructivism to argue cause and effect to the point she begs the question oft in her lectures

I don't want to compliment the Japanese or anything, but they did more to develop the infrastructure and human capital on the Island than the Spanish or the Bananapublicans that came after did for Cuba It's mostly just A bad analogy

And while they were bad, I don't think they were as bad as the CSA was.

This did actually happen but Brazil not Cuba en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confede...

Did you get to go south amongst the Formosans?

To be perfectly honest I'd actually try it! www.southernliving.com/recipes/devi...

genuinely curious what the analogy was, sounds like a stretch

I remember an ancient Armond White film review (I think it was for Ang Lee's RIDE WITH THE DEVIL) in which he made a similar analogy.

physically just felt my brain cramp

I have never heard of this before today. Ridiculous idea. Not thinking about it any further.

There is so much wrong with the comparison that was made in the original post that I have no idea where to even begin. so I won't begin, the post was deleted anyhow

In France, there is one elected representative (Aurélien Taché) who said even worse, that "Taiwan = the Vichy regime in Singmaringen". It is the utterly stupid or/and cynical adaptation to the french context of this kind of analogy denying the History of the taiwanese people.

I guess apparently?

I think it's because so many people see every civil war internationally through American civil war blinders. Not every conflict works like that but a lot of people aren't good at seeing historical nuance.

I thought Taiwan was the USA and PRC was British North America?

From people who have never been there, obvs.

I think one of the funniest parts of the confederacy analogy is that they love to trot it out and then side with the confederates of the analogy

Wait until they learn that the KMT hasn't been at the helm the whole time.

Cavaliers?

It’s because the KMT is the party that continues to believe in a unified China. They’re like “well, we’re the ROC, right? So it logically follows that

It makes more sense when you realize that the modern PRC is in many ways the kind of state Chiang wanted to China to be, an authoritarian single party capitalist superpower.

Like, do they realize that Taiwan’s in the process of cancelling CKS? Like, there’s a forest where they’ve dumped old statues of him. The first time I was in Taipei, they had repurposed Chiang Kai-Shek Memorial Hall as a SpongeBob SquarePants museum…

Even Madame Kai Shek, who lived to be 105, died in 2003 in NYC.

See Exhibit A: bsky.app/profile/vond...

He did call me racist for asking him if he had chopsticks though. Which was very very funny.

To be clear, I think anyone on either side still claiming the other are dead end losers, I just understand having a higher base level of belligerence than you would expect been the two.

But the entire rest of our history is littered with enemies that we ground to dust and then became friends with in the span of like a generation Germany, Japan, Vietnam being some of the more obvious examples Vietnam in particular considering that, like in his scenario, we walked away the loser

Same people who were calling Hong Kong a British colony during the uprisings and crackdowns of the late 2010s, which, yeah, it was but that was 2 decades after the British left.

Drugs??

Jesus this is a new low

The koumintang was a fascist government, even if modern day Taiwan has severely changed for the better, it exists because of the fascists escaping there.

. . . and it's all rage bait so it trends I guess.