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one of my recent preoccupations is the visceral hostility the MAGA right has for the histories and traditions of the United States. these are people who spit on the Declaration and salute third-rate European despots!

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It's striking that progressives like Tim Walz and Zohran Mamdani evoke the middle American attitude that, "Yes, we can fix these social problems because we're Americans and it's the right thing to do!" While the "America first" right only emulates failed and failing nation-states elsewhere.

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Good to read this. I’ve had the same observation. Whatever happened to “we do things because they’re hard?” How did that get replaced by the gloom and fear brigade?

"...because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." These Assclowns don't want their skills measured.

Putting men on the Moon and returning them was about proving that we could put an ICBM anywhere. That's a big reason why government interest dropped after a few successes.

Hating America is the beating heart of the conservative project, I wish people would stop letting them get away with faking patriotism.

Yup! Never mind their love for a local group of losers who ruled their traitorous states for fewer than 5 years when they were literally trying to not be Americans anymore.

Well that’s their whole thing, that “civilizational decline” is happening across western Europe - no one asks how they’re measuring this. I saw some administration creep say this on Newshour and he got no pushback

It is my stern belief that people like this are Confederates. They don't like American Ideals and never have. They want slavery back.

and it’s entirely a fantasy. “western civilization” has always been multicultural & pluralistic. even from a purely logistical standpoint, ethnostates cannot function for very long. any system trying to eliminate our DNA-ingrained sociality & community-drive is destined to fail.

my fav part of their obsession with "Western civilization" is how every course and every history book about the history of western civilization starts squarely in the middle east for at least the first chapter.

Agreed. The right emulates those states bc as dictatorships, they believe that the government succeeds in forcing people to think what the dictator tells them to. They don't realize that those countries are a hairsbreadth from violent revolution at every moment, and the US populace is well-armed!

Because they are not Americans, they are fascists. They believe they are persecuted. Everything is someone else's fault. Minorities are less deserving of human rights than straight white people. Their leader is above criticism because he was sent by their god.

The "America" of the "America First" cult is only a small portion of America: mainly uneducated and old white people--many more men than women-- who are less and less able to dominate those different from them. .

Bottom line. MAGA is not very bright, or inclined to serve. They are who you thought they were. We should deport them to the Redest state who voted for this High School musical of an administration.

Also, these Western chauvinists care so much about the values of the West but then apparently are happy throwing away habeaus corpus which goes back to the dang magna carta. It’s essentially the bedrock of the civilization they’re pretending to protect. They and logic are strangers.

I wonder how much ties back to the generations old enough to remember/live in a pre-civil rights America dying off. It’s like they can’t connect to the main strain of racial caste system that historically governed the continent so they’re falling back on euro-nativism (that just doesn’t hold here)

Seriously. Looking to tinpot authoritarian in tiny Hungary for inspiration shows what morally bankrupt losers MAGA are. The left is full of proud Americans & we need to own it. Yes, we have struggled to live up to our ideals, but ever striving to better meet those ideals has made America great.

I am so F-in ready to blast out a RECLAIMED (restated) Mission Statement for America — and tell THEM to love it or leave it! I.e. We *ARE* a multicultural,, multiracial, theologically-neutral, mixed-density, heterogeneous nation that VALUES diversity, WORKS FOR equity, ASPIRES to inclusion… 1/2

… etc etc and—propaganda and fash-fantisies notwithstanding—this nation IS ALL THAT. And WILL BE that. And *WANTS* TO BE that. And if YOU clique of noisy frauds can’t get with THAT, then YOU’RE gonna be unhappy here …so maybe better think ‘bout ‘self-deporting’ somewherez else. Motherfuckers

Jamelle, looking abroad for inspiration and alternative models has happened quite a few times. In the last century, I'm sure you know, some looked to the Bolsheviks, some looked to the Fascist in Italy, the Nazis, later to Mao and Castro. Most of the lookers were powerful or influential and gullible

Well, their aim isn't democracy, it's the acquisition & retention of power. If wearing the trappings of democracy helps with that, they'll do it. If not, they'll throw off that pretension & go authoritarian. Democracy & good governance isn't the end goal. Power is.

People like Vance, Miller, Fuentes hate America and American values. Notice how they never talk about American values? How they never quote leading lights from the nation's past? All they talk about is skin color and Europe. America isn't Europe.

Some of it is they can't quote the people they identify with. They can't use people like George Wallace or Alexander Stephens so they just pretend America didn't exist until Donald Trump came down the escalator in 2015.

They’ve spent most of their lives being taught a false history of this country, one in which white Europeans colonists were heroes instead of villains. The reality for those they subjugated is very different, but it’s the true history of this land.