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I think my most genuinely unpopular take is that a widely held and genuine consumer preference for cheaper, lower-quality goods, not private equity, is driving the decline in quality of consumer goods like clothing and housewares.

Online shopping eliminated these gatekeepers and disintermediated the market, allowing consumers to express their desires more directly. And it turns out that what people really want is cheap disposable goods, not more expensive but higher quality stuff that lasts a long time.

Extremely related point: people don’t want to pay more for quality, they want to be cheap and complain!

Reconstruction 3 Enthusiast@squalortoballer.bsky.social

This is why flying is bad now. People will say they want full service airlines and wax nostaligic about the golden age of jet travel (when it was unaffordable), but revealed preferences are that people choose the lowest up front price option when spending their own money.

Costco is the opposite of Amazon because they have a team of professional buyers who stock their shelves with a limited selection of high quality goods that provide good value. And unlike Target and Walmart, they have not opened up their e-commerce platforms to third-party sellers of cheap garbage.

Snowden St.@snowden.st

I am a theological protestant, but when it comes to the religion of consumerism, I’m decidedly not. There’s no “priesthood for all consumers”, most of you are dumb as hell, and you should let someone who has expertise and an interest in your repeat business do the pickin’.

The amount of reading you have to do on Reddit to background check any purchase over $50 is wild. Side note: you absolutely cannot trust Amazon reviews because sellers routinely give away free product and cash in exchange for five star reviews.

Jake Casella Brookins@casella.bsky.social

Not really disagreeing, but a related factor is the research/decision fatigue if you do decide quality/longevity is worth the cost. I do it for kitchen equipment etc; quickly run out of spoons/finances to do it for clothing.

I don’t want to pick on this person but you can still buy Dr Martens that are made in their English factory using heritage materials and high quality Japanese-made Levi’s 501s that are just like the ones they made in the 80s. These are less popular than the cheaper, lower quality versions.

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I trade quality for price all the time. I don’t buy high end sunglasses because even though they’re better made and have better optics, I don’t think they’re worth the money because I break or lose them on a regular basis. Instead I spend like $5 a pair straight from the factory.

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My grandmother's wringer washer was more reliable than the automatic than replaced it. But there are factors other than reliability that will lead people to making a purchase.

the modal case is that washer/dryer lasts quite a while, we're talking like a difference between 10% to like ~1-2% repair rates in the first N years or so (i forget the specific numbers here). samsung in particular dominate the market and their mainstream product is in the upper part of that range

I agree this is the best critique I think people will often sacrifice quality for price, but even when they would rather not they still sometimes have to because price is not a good signal for quality My off brand Chinese knockoff waterpick is better than the brand name and ~65% cheaper

Ironically it is new cars that have high information and have been the one thing definitely de-enshittified since the good old days (yes, I know the tech stuff can suck). In other durable goods, the shortcut of brand trust has often been strip-mined. So what remains is CostCo and Consumer Reports

And even attempting to do the work and research what IS worth spending extra money for is tough because the internet is just a spam landfill nowadays.

Moreover, sellers of low-quality-high-price goods will spend an essentially unlimited amount of money on subverting any source of signal that enables consumers to differentiate them from sellers of high-quality-high-price goods.

information asymmetry is important, and i think you can kinda see this in action because when it comes to cars, which is a HUGE outlay for the typical person, reliability starts becoming a very strong factor into what cars and marks do well (though there will always be people who buy jeeps)

Yeah, it can be hard to justify paying more if you aren't sure the increase in quality will be worth it (or even exist). Two places wanna charge you the same for a polyester shirt, why not buy the cheaper one? Unless you know for a fact that the other will fit better, be better made, etc.

I mostly agree, but I do think that price is an 'easy' signal, whereas 'quality' can be more difficult for people to figure out. Especially if they are new to the product