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The Elm language (originally based on functional reactive programming) was cleaner, terser, more elegant, and a better developer experience long before React, but being a new language means having a much smaller ecosystem.

I still very much prefer using vanilla HTML5/JS/CSS generally. It can do a lot — more than you’d think — and frankly a lot of stuff that uses React doesn’t need React However, like you said, the value of React becomes pretty obvious above a certain level of complexity

I think the original library flavor of React was a good stop gap on the way to full web components

angular person in here, I can not talk about points one nor two. But I can confirm point 3. hooly cow frontend is hell

Angular has actually gotten really good in recent years - it’s opinionated and well suited for web apps, but it’s not a Swiss Army knife like React (because it’s not just a rendering library)

I am just going to take this from the vibe coder/tinkerer perspective ... having a complete UI/UX library that you can just basically pick and choose from, and it looks fabulous, makes developing quick basic one task apps so easy, and USABLE too. F em.

Frontend engineering + scaling numbers of users requires very creative engineering to keep the experience good.

Agreed that React was a great innovation for its time. But things have moved on. In every other major client-side framework there are signals now. And browsers have caught up with SPAs: they have MPA view transitions, bfcache etc: mastrojs.github.io/guide/client...

Why is React better than vue.js?

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hmm, I was still experiencing that behavior yesterday then (while writing that reply, in fact) I still get noticeable lag (especially in the post composer) in some cases I'll test it out some more; any way I can help profile or diagnose those kinds of issues? I'm on Firefox

Which is React Native 😅

blink twice if react is in the room with you

paul is this a cry for help

Thinking you could do better than the most widely used tool for a job is sort of like thinking you can walk into a casino and beat the house.

If SwiftUI is just Apple doing "React too," how do you measure truly original innovation for an app like Moob?

Meh, imho it's more Elm inspired than react

natalie I do not have enough chrome paint for this

💯 Frontend development is mostly an asynchronous state problem. Hooks and modeling components as a simple transformation function from data to UI seems obvious now, but was revolutionary then.

Trying & hilariously failing at React.js is what made me respect the fuck out of FE engineers. Promises fucked me up.

Did you try using Liquid Glass in React Native but you know it does add a specific layer of work that Swift developers don't have..

Please add fix David’s account to your list bsky.app/profile/davi...

the biggest problem with react is anything it has to do with Vercel as a company

choosing the performance side of the reconciliation vs performance tradeoff, bonus points if done statically with a compiler

Preact exist and literally a modern react with signals ;)

NERD! Sorry, I just can't help myself.

React is the worst, except for the alternatives.

1. Agree with the first half. Some pretty slick things got invented later, maybe inspired by React to some degree. 1.1. I think React led to the large-scale renewed interest in functional programming. 2. Conceptually, yes. The way they work on top of JS is… a bit iffy. 3. Absolutely agree.

yep, its SOOOOOOOO much better that its unfair to compare

but DX is so much better

You don’t have to choose to put that many in one file 🙃 but hey at least they is choice

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