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Discworld QOTD, from Lords and Ladies

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Discworld QOTD, from The Last Continent

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A classic pterry formulation. That was him at his absolute height, just coming into the full extent of his powers (which he'd run with for many years, to be fair)

I assume you're referring to the quoted post, and it does indeed seem that way... sort of.

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he does, eventually, get a comprehensive list of the harmless creatures on Not Australia it is, and I am giving you the entire list verbatim, “some of the sheep”

I remember reading this … I was working in Germany and had a terrible cold/fever. Shivering, shaking, could not sleep. Stayed up all night reading it and fell into a blissful sleep as dawn broke. I think it might be my absolute favourite.

I love this quote so much. One of the reasons Lords and Ladies is up there in my top 5. This quote, the one from Hogfather where Death says humans need fantasy to be human, and of course the scene in Maskerade where Greebo becomes human and it describes his sheer aura are just... peak 🤌🤌

This is my favorite of the witches books because of the way he takes the magic of “stories have to be told correctly” and turns it on its head. Shakespeare got Macbeth right; but he got MND catastrophically wrong, and put us all in danger. And this passage is the keystone.

As a kid, I'd had a haphazard exposure to Discworld via the two novels that I found in two different classes, two of his worst frankly (Sourcery and Eric) but the third I somehow bumped into was Lords and Ladies and it rewired my brain completely. I was never the same after

I love how Lord & Ladies is just a straight up horror film. also, it provides us with the origin story of Witchcraft on the disc, & it ends up being one of the darkest things he's ever written. A new type of magic, born of the collective rage of the women whose children, spouses etc were murdered.

They then decide to use that rage & fight back. & when you look at all the witchcraft we see through out the books, you can easily imagine they'd be created as part of a war against beings that use mind tricks, illusion & manipulation against their victims. triaging wounds, stealth, fighting glamour

me, brought up on elves in Tam Lin border ballads and irish myth books in the library looking at 'High' Elves in american fantasy. '.... I'm not seeing anything here about them literally STEALING people.' (tolkein I just read as snobs)

The part of this that always sticks with me is how he switches from saying that words are snakes to saying that words hide snakes. Just to make sure you’re paying attention.

I one I have never reread, there is a sinister undertone & it gave me the absolute willies Maybe it's the daoine sidhe of it all - Irish fairies are not to be messed with, they're not Tinkerbell, & Terry captured the vibe so perfectly, I enjoyed it but never, deliberately, picked it up.again

Lords and Ladies is one of my favourite Discworld books The staring contest Can't have two queens in a hive The parallel responsibilities of being the best blacksmith and being the best witch Who can catch a unicorn? It is such a great book

The bit about being the best blacksmith was a major influence on my own philosophy of teaching. “That was the bargain—you shod anything they brought to you, *anything*, and the payment was that you *could* shoe anything.”

…plus an elderly carpenter I met at a Ren Faire many years ago who told me that he learned early on that the correct answer to “can you build cupboards?” is “of course I can build cupboards; I’ll get back to you on Monday with a quote” and then spent the weekend learning how to build cupboards.

there is, of course, a lot of Tolkien satire in Discworld, but Terry's version of elves comes from a lot of the nastier fairy folk you find in older mythology they are here to play games and tricks and how you feel about it does not matter at all

Sources differ! The different stories in the Silmarillion have different authors and thingol’s characterization varies significantly between them! The Thingol of the Children of Húrin story is a paragon of virtue and wisdom.

man, fey creatures in general are dicks you could have just asked nicely for me to leave your enchanted mushroom ring, you didn't have to turn me into a sentient elm tree cursed to watch my family mourn my disappearance until they too die ffs I just wanted a quiet place to read

I read Lords and Ladies for the first time this year, simultaneously reading The Fellowship of the Ring and the brainwashy qualities of Pratchett elves were not entirely off from how hobbits completely and utterly adore elves in Tolkien. Not a perfect fit, but an interesting juxtaposition

Maybe a bit of the Cottingsley fairies in there too - since the Cottingsley girls confessed to the hoax and passed away not too long before Lords and Ladies was published. Not too long after *that* a different Terry (Jones of Monty Python) wrote Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairy Book.

While true, I think it's worth noting that's just how a lot of old fables, fairy tales and mythoses were. The gods were awful too.

Y'know, for all that I adored Discworld, I never grooved fully with the Granny Weatherwax stories. They were very well-written, of course, but there wasn't a character in them I really vibed with until Tiffany Aching (and those stories were phenomenal).

Same here, I've been reading everything in release order for the first time and it wasn't until I read Lords & Ladiesast month that I really vibed with one.