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Just use Tor. Get more people into secure browsing and increase the nodes to speed up even base level browsing. When I have a question that I don't want anything to think I have an interest of, I will open up Tor and use duck duck go to search things. Like celebrity gossip and shit.

Duck duck go is one of the best for privacy and security. Anything Google is pure evil. Especially Gemini. Avoid AI at all costs.

Brave is run by a homophobe religious fanatic with money from Peter Thiel.

I used brave for a while because of its ad blocking, but currently Im using firefox, I debloated it by disabling AI enhancements in the settings

Brave is much better.

Isnt google the main funder of firefox?

I won't use Chrome. I haven't EVER trusted G👀gle. (I feel the same way abt Zuckerberg & Musk's businesses.) Another thing I noticed ~ Chrome always LIES abt the size of its Updates. Other Apps, even G👀gle's, don't. A little thing, but (IMO) so TYPICAL of Chrome & one more reason not to trust it.

Brave is run by a homophobe religious fanatic with money from Peter Thiel.

I can't remember where I heard it. I think it was when I was looking around for which browser to switch to, years ago, when I stopped using Opera. It was a combination of someone saying its internal "sandboxing" system was outdated. And also that you can't really install script blocking on it.

I love Vivaldi. It's my default browser.

Curious if you’ve tried Startpage? Been using it for a like while and like the simplicity.

Vivaldi isn't good at syncing workspaces and tab groups between instances on different devices.

Oop

And they've done really shady stuff, several times, like modifying referral links and whatnot.

Well damn Thanks for letting people know. Sucks cause I did like brave

Ewwwww.

DuckDuckGo

And install Privacy Badger from the EFF!

I mean....you could probably use Firefox on there but it's kinda like trying to put out a house fire with a sippy cup.

idk, eBay to sell your Chromebook and get another laptop

You can have Google spying and selling your data, you can have Microsoft spying and selling your data or you can install a version of Linux or get a Mac.

I love Duck Duck Go.

Helium is a great alternative to brave if you want to avoid software made by monsters

Iceraven on Android Librewolf on Windows Both so privacy-focused that they break some sites 👌

Been using Zen lately, only issue is our local servers and MS Platform SSO don't like it so I still need Firefox for some things.

I like Firefox because I can turn off all the AI. Same with DuckDuckGo.

Waterfox is a good blend of privacy+casual for me rn. Used Firefox for like 20 years. Switched to Waterfox couple months ago, never looked back. Any Chromium-based browser is untrustworthy

Btw if you want a browser largely free of Google code, you might want to look into Firefox. (I personally don't like it because they're trying to push useless AI features constantly.)

I appreciate that google knows me. No one else in this world gets me but at least my browser does. 😁

Vivaldi is great. Super customisable and while it's chrome based still, it does have better privacy protections compared to the real deal itself. Shout out to those devs! They're doing great work on it!

Using Iron Browser since years. Portable Version does not even install anything. 👇 www.srware.net/iron/

And there's DuckDuckGo, in which you can turn off AI. Yay!

I really gotta give safari on desktop a good college try.

Go @vivaldi.com GO!

GoDuckGo

I use Firefox as a browser & Duck Duck Go as a search engine.

Thanks for this discussion. I have a new laptop with windows 11. Have yet to go online with it. Been trying to decide on a browser as I hate chrome. Firefox is on my old laptop.

I use Safari on my MacBook and iPhone, and DuckDuckGo on my Windows laptop. I use incognito mode frequently when using Safari.

I guess I'll have to review my preferences.

Ironically I replaced it because it was constantly crashing on me. There is some kind of law of nature that malicious tech products will be bad at what they're "supposed" to do.

I mostly like Vivaldi but their insistence to use SI units for file sizes makes me hate them. A megabyte is 1024kb, not 1000. Fuck you Vivaldi, why are you promoting this bullshit that only exists to excuse lying hard drive manufacturers?!?

Vivaldi user here. Very happy with it. Still moving off Chrome, it's insidious with how much information it has, but very happy so far.

A little overstated. It’s good for some things but not most

I switched to vivaldi a year+ ago and haven't been tempted back to any other browser.

What runs well on a Pixel?

I’ve switched to Ecosia, no AI.

for humans in other parts of the world where mac isn't used much, your options are firefox, zen, and brave if you want chromium (tbf the best one is still zen)

I use duck duck go. Might give Vivaldi a go though and see how I get on

Brave's the one I have used for years now and it's very good. It feels a lot safer than all the 'big brother' meta systems.

Zen/Firefox+duckduckgo.

Safari is already on your computer

Browsers have no moat these days. With a password manager that syncs passwords it takes minutes to get started with new browser.

Libre wolf AND mullvad browser are amazing

Waterfox, harden firefox, ungoogled chromium etc

I read this as fire box container

Absolutely. Facebook builds personas in its database for people who don’t have accounts so it can already tell what they like and who their friends are.

I contain Facebook/META by adding them to my hosts file. 😜

What about DuckDuckGo?

Agree! iPhone has a safari default server. Never use chrome on any personal devices.

Firefox is my choice.

🙏

That's what I use, too