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Knowing these guys a bit, I’ll slightly disagree. They were always regressive, and don’t actually have enough fluency to have a genuine political POV. This is why bullshit narratives that flatter them, like Yarvin-style neoreaction, could easily sway them. Then, rising worker power radicalized them.

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Lots of discussion of this. Still think the best explanation for tech lord rightward lurch on culture war (trans rights, immigration, crime, etc.) is middle-aged white guy syndrome. They aged into the Trumpiest demographic. Income doesn’t explain it. Millionaires, $200K+ earners went for Harris.

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You are right but let's be honest the tech industry has been made to feel like vampiric private equity finance ghouls by the left. Obviously tech required scrutiny, but other US industries- say Hollywood or Auto- get that with less vitriol. It messed w the self image of the innovator/builder.

You can mock lack or laugh at it. But if your self image is tied to feeling like the nerd building and innovating large business and being treated lower than PE wealth extractors, it's going to hurt. Ultimately they took a gambit the corrupt dude would be corrupt for them to fix that.

PE and VC has certainly distorted the tech industry. It resembles gambling more than actual investing. The barrier for entry is lower than other industries, which is exacerbated by favoring young and inexperienced devs/leaders.

This just underscores for me that Obama knew how to handle these guys in a way that neither Biden, nor Clinton, really grasped. He fed their egos, gave them some photo-ops, buttered them up in the press. A little bit of glad-handing can go a long way

Well, they were significantly different in their agenda and focus and power then, too. Have talked to him a good bit about this.

Correct. Obama helped Musk a lot. Because we think our government should shovel our currency to the top of the economy with no strings attached While the masses are poor or rely on bank loans to fuel household consumption

Musk was just one contractor and had a credible product at the time. It wasn’t an unreasonable decision then. The problem is a legal and financial system that let him accrue so much more power without accountability.

Privatizing space is insane It’s creating a state within a state And the problem is that we no longer understand that a corporate charter is just a law that says: Here you go. You have tons of power to organize our economy

What amazes me is how little they tend to understand actual tech, too. Like, sure, they love to think of themselves as smarter than everyone but if they need to print something off their phone they’re totally helpless.

I’ve only met one tech billionaire in person and it was astounding how he managed to be both incredibly charismatic and sharp witted in person yet profoundly dumb and wrong about almost everything

This has always been one of my biggest takeaways, the degree to which until a decade ago they were mostly indifferent to, oblivious to govt and had little interest in it or grasp of what it did. You see an extreme fast forward version of that w Musk himself.

Yeah and he’s also the extreme case of developing a huge fixation on government once he realized what procurement capture could do for him.

This feels pretty close. Reactionary thought in silicon valley isn't new, especially given how deep the "Libertarian" point of view seems to penetrate in those circles. Yarvin started writing decades ago and not enough people seem to be drawing that connection

Libertarian story making: Marchers are free from government issued currency and government issued laws. Oh, except when you realize your crypto is toy “money” so want to back your crypto with government created currency And want the law to recognize your little toy crypto

Is there any actual evidence that Silicon Valley tilted particularly rightward or did the Libertarian regressive elements that always existed there just combine in a new meaningful way with other aligned ideologues this election?

They had a lot of left-leaning employees, and so it was a competitive advantage to have left-leaning policy, as a way to entice employees to stay. A couple years ago, the industry started widely laying off engineers; management no longer considers employee retention to be a reason to do anything.

So in the absence of a business reason to be mildly left-leaning, they're instead going for the default billionaire stance of "who lets us solidify our money & power the most?"

In the last year, I heard from their political advisors they were never concerned about democracy, just the instability that Trump would bring to markets. But they realize they make money in China. In the 90s we thought capitalism and democracy went hand in hand, now we know they don’t have to.

They were always libertarian not liberal. They always wanted less rules for them and more rules for everyone else. Uber wasn't started by middle aged guys, but it is one of the most anti-labor companies that exists today.

I’d add that perhaps more than other industries, “making it” is defined as becoming one of the vaunted founders of unicorns. Classic American story of being anti-taxing the billionaires because then I’d be taxed when I’m a billionaire.

A combination of rising working power and Biden admin regulatory chops as evidenced in FTC, SEC and CFPB - the broligarchs hate all that. Oh, and the executive order to mandate responsible GenAI dvlpmnt …

Male Gen X'rs screwed us...they've always been major rethugs and they love mango mussolini. I'm a GenX female and had to be in school with these assholes...in the south...it wasn't fun.

It’s also true that high-risk capital favors cluster b pathologies over all other traits in the founders they fund. They strongly disfavor empathy and rule-following behaviors.

Or taxes. Harris' promise to make billionaires pay more in taxes. And they should be paying A LOT more. Basically, turn the billionaires all into millionaires. Boo Fucking Hoo! Anyway, that's my father-in-law's theory and he was dean of a business school for a long time.

I’ve worked with these guys my entire career. In the 90s we built our own desks and created the new economy. When the stock options vested and the money got huge, they convinced themselves it wasn’t luck, it was their brilliance. That should not be questioned. They know best.

Jason Calicanis is the only one I followed for a while via podcasts and actually met in person, and I was only surprised when he went hard for Trump because I hadn’t pictured him aligning with *any* movement or ideology.

People with well thought out and coherent political ideologies don't realize that most people don't have a genuine political POV. This is why takes like "Dems moved too far left/right" are silly. Most people don't know wtf left vs. right means.

I’ve been in tech for 30 years this year (Yikes!), and the tech bros were always right wing misogynistic, racist dude bros. I worked at Digex, Akamai, and a dot com. Plus regional isp startups. Part of why I ultimately have been in traditional corporate for the last 20 years is because of that.

Most of it feels like a lifetime ago, but this year I’ve been very in my feelings about it. My daughter decided to study computer science, and it’s brought up memories of my younger years. Not all good.