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REPORTER: Do you think the independent redistricting commission should be disbanded? HOCHUL: Yes. I'm tired with fighting this fight w/ my hand tied behind my back. With all due respect to the good govt groups, politics is a political process. And to think we're gonna do this with a purity test ...

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Thank God the Democrats actually have governors with some values and fight in them in NY, CA, and IL. I'm so sick of Democrats being doormats. This is all people really want is to see some backbone and some action. That's why Democratic Socialism is winning over big money Democrats in races.

where is ther nat'l leadership on this -- Pritzker, Newsom, Hochul....great -- but too they should be calling for Schmuner and Jeffries to step down in favor of some leaders with fire in their bellies.

Sigh. I don't understand why we can't pass federal law that sets congressional districts based just on the number of people in a contiguous geographical area and let the party groupings fall where they may. I mean...look at Louisiana's districts. That's ridiculous.

The same as any liberal proposal: an actually liberal President who says pass a bill on it by EOY, or else X (unilateral action that libs would love). Could be a bill that accomplishes a goal, could be a bill that says nothing changes. Stand alone bill, no poison pills.

This would require 67 senate dems (impossible) or republicans to vote for this (also impossible). SCOTUS has also already ruled numerous times that gerrymandering is legal. Your "proposal" is based on fantasy that will never come to be. Dems are finally starting to realize this and acting.

I live in the very fucked up 5th district, there are so many cultural differences between the northern parishes and southern parishes that it is ridiculous. There are already so many cultural differences just between the southern parishes. This district literally spans 4 of the 5 cultural regions!

Like, I kid you not, this district includes: the Greater New Orleans region, Plantation Country, the Crossroads, and Sportsman's Paradise. If it weren't for the mandated black majority districts, they probably would have shoved Cajun Country in there, too. There are several parishes in this district

What does it mean to set "congressional districts based just on the number of people in a contiguous geographical area"? How does that translate into a determination of boundary lines?

I agree with her. Proper redistricting must be mandatory for all before it would work. Without that those who play by the "rule" are always going to be disadvantaged by those who don't. Hopefully when we get back to a functioning government again (a.k.a. MAGA kicked out) that will get done.

YES!! It is crucial that Blue States gerrymander NOW to counter Texas trying to lock-in a permanent Republican controlled House. bsky.app/profile/atru...

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REPORTER: Do you think the independent redistricting commission should be disbanded? HOCHUL: Yes. I'm tired with fighting this fight w/ my hand tied behind my back. With all due respect to the good govt groups, politics is a political process. And to think we're gonna do this with a purity test ...

I wish these blue states would stop threatening the, *I'm going to hit you, if you hit me* card. Just haul off and slug them by redistricting now. Only when we fight fire w/fire will we get independent redistricting for the country as a whole. Course Reps will call it their idea by that time.

If gerrymandering is legal for the GOP lead states then it’s null and void in Democratic states, emergency executive orders, temporary suspend the independent committee, is not extreme in this case. Let’s even out the playing field.

about fucking time someone said this? it's wild that Dems continue to play by a rulebook for a game the GOP hasn't been playing in decades. patting themselves on the back and saying "when they go low, we go high" as the GOP destroys democracy and stands up concentration camps is insane!

That fairness era is over. We are in a new world. It’s a type of Cold War. The Republicans want it. White Power wants it. We on the left must win this White Power battle and put bigotry and the desire of the elite to rest once and for all.

Yes. Thank you. Call them what they are-- fascists, white supremecists, Nazis, thugs, greedy bastards, theives, mobsters, racists, a fucking street gang, butchers, organized crime, a fucking hate group, clowns, hypocrites, morons, deplorables, sociopaths, gun fetishists, disgusting authoritarians

In a way, it could be argued that the people fighting this fight are the ones with the most integrity. It's easier to sit back and say there's nothing you can do than it is to get your hands dirty for a good cause. It would be nice not to have to do this but tbh it should have been done long ago.

This is true. I want the Dems to play just as dirty. I wish they had eliminated the filibuster for judges so much earlier, because in the end Repubs did it anyway. When the other side lacks morals you have to play at their level. But it really sucks going against our own morals too.

Battles need to be fought with ALL tools available. Fairness is achieved when ALL parties follow the same rules, NOT when we adhere to abstract plans that ensure that we will be victimized!

What's the point of going thru the humiliating process of gaining power if you don't use it when you get it? Obama could have got so much done his first two years but let the GOP set his agenda. It was sickening to me to watch. Roe could have been codified. Single payer passed. So much more.

Has Delgado weighed in on this? it's the ONLY issue that matters, because without power, we get nothing accomplished. There should be only ONE issue we focus on: resisting OrangeKingBoy...

We have no other choice unless we want to have Trump never leave the White House. The current Republicans in Congress have proven they only care about their seats, not us, not democracy, not the success of the nation. WE must fight back here.

Finally! Just do the thing. We are being eliminated. If our elected officials dont start fighting, we are done for. And I dont just mean in an electoral way.

She’s absolutely right. It’s sad, but true: Democrats can’t keep “playing fair” and expect to win against an opponent that cheats every chance they get. Their slavish devotion to norms & rules is 1 reason voters are so frustrated & disillusioned with the Democratic Party. Good answer from Hochul.

She’s right to blame Trump for trashing the norms. The GOP are pushing boundaries, cheating, & working the refs. Elected Dems unwilling to do the same—i.e., what’s necessary *politically* to stop GOP—are damning us to a horrific future of disappearings, torture, murder, and hunger.

I might actually vote for her in 2026. Swear to gawd, when did she grow a pair??? A spine??? From dithering over congestion pricing in Manh to this? Somewhere she had a shot of courage. Or, can of spinach. No matter…keep going!

Yesssss! This is the only way to defeat them. If you keep playing nice, they will keep cheating and winning even though they're the minority. Every governor in a Democratic party led state should do this. Gerrymander them into oblivion and then we can come back to the table to chart a path forward.

One of these blue states needs to gerrymander another blue district to make up for Utah. They have been ordered to ungerrymander us but they're never going to do it now.

The laws have to change. We need the clauses that turn it back to legislators or govs. If another state uses extreme gerrymandering. With a corrupt SCOTUS and repubs. We have to fight back. We have to prevent authoritarians taking over out elections.

It is inhumane to make people live under Republican rule. They want to return us to feudalism and let anyone not white or rich die of preventable illness, have no education, and no hope. If we have to rig the counties to make sure people are given a chance at a dignified life, so be it.

This time the blame will lie not with Democratic elected officials, but with the New York Judiciary, which righteously condemns gerrymandering like Platonic Guardians…oblivious to the fact that sister states like TX are composed of Roland Freisler rubber stamps.

Democracy dies when one party is held to an incredibly high standard while the other party runs rogue dismantling it. Sometimes you have to fight Ak47 with RPG inorder to save democracy. Bet this is what’s happening here.

Democratic states should use independent, non-partisan commissions to draw voting maps designed to create a significant number of competitive districts ... only after it's part of national voting rights and reform legislation

I’ve been calling for this for quite a while. We can have fair redistributing when everyone across the country participates. Until then, I want to shove redistributing down their Republican throats. Democrats should also call for eliminating the federal income tax and defund the red states!

Non-partisan redistricting. It was not something the politicians came up with. Once it was clear that no GOP state was doing the same, all we were doing was limiting ourselves.

Every Democrat leader everywhere need to listen to this. There is no point in gaining power unless you use the power you gained. And Dems don't do that. They want to go thru some type of process that will make them look more virtuous instead of getting shit done.

She's right l, but wrong. If voting isn't proportional to the electorate, this nation is cooked as a Constitutional entity. 2/3rds, or more, of districts ought to be winnable by the candidates. Otherwise, we just slide toward darker times.

About time democrats start saying "oh yeah?!" Any elected democrat has already been chosen to fight and win against pigs who dilute democrat's votes. Appears Hochul will fight. Good. She, Newsom, Pritzker, et al must win.

In CA, fair districting is the law. Newsom said he'll put changing that on the ballot in Nov. We vote on a zillion proposals every election, but Dems have a super majority here so it will pass, but there's no way to implement it in time for the midterms.

It was more complicated than that in 2022. The Republicans on the appointed commission that was charged with redistricting decided it would be to their advantage to do no work and force a court ordered redistricting. In frustration, the democratic majority in the

I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. That's kind of what I meant by TX having a head start. These blue states are going to need to undo previous anti gerrymandering measures they have put in place before they can even take action. They need to get it going.

This is an area where the courts really matter. NYs courts said no, but OHs said yes to their gerrymandering (DeWine's son sits on the court and didn't recuse himself). There are always lawsuits brought by pro-democracy groups over the illegal gerrymanders, but the courts in R states are not neutral

JUSTICE DEPT MUST enter the picture and past laws requiring state voting districts align with the STATE registered democratic/republican ratio. If 60% are registered as Dems and 40% are Rep, the state must make ALL districts the same ratio. People can still vote for who they wish in elections.

We can't use T-mobile & other cell companies, being connected to Starlink !!!! In late June, after Elon said trump was in the Epstein files, he donated 5 million to trump 🤔 We MUST find alternative cells companies, Maga/Ice is LISTENING 👀

tmo’s contract with them was stupid and short sighted but ya can’t just not use cell companies. Even the mvno’s use the big three towers

As war ought to be a last resort, so too should this approach. Once MAGA is crushed and the Constitution safeguarded and amended to prevent this crap from ever happening again, we can talk above-board dealings. We cannot allow MAGA to poison our politics and our national soul any more than it has.

Good for her! Everyone knows Gerrymandering is dirty. Rs don't mind being dirty, but they were banking on the Ds never allowing themselves to break norms...to save this Democracy the Ds have no choice...it's time to beat them at their own game.

Unfortunately we can’t fight the corruption of Trump with patience/integrity. The Democrats tried that. We are now engaged in battle with our fellow citizens thanks to a hateful, unstable sex predator. As a Country we let him do this to us. We must fight back before he completely destroys us.

“Politics is a political process”. As a member of a good govt group working to end gerrymandering, let me point out that this isn’t “politics”. We’re seeing an active overthrow of our government. Accelerating the systematic destruction of a democratic process is not how you fight a coup.

Oh for God’s sake so get out of the way and clutch your pearls while the rest of us actually fight back. You’re no doubt a member of the privileged class that can afford to endure what Republicans are doing to us. Your righteousness won’t save my family from being sent to concentration camps.

I share your anger & concern & am glad you’re committed to fighting back. Our elected officials are, tragically, not clued in to the fact that we’re in an active coup. Their reactive “politics” responses are meaningless. Please use your energy to fight back effectively. And recruit friends. More ⬇️

It's so sad. There was an effort to try and make maps fair that was succeeding in many places, but now Republicans have so weaponized the process that Democrats have no choice but to do the same. The best solution would *still* be fair maps nationally, blut that's a dream that the GOP has murdered.

It's stupid, not sad. There is almost nothing in the US Constitution about primaries, nominations, rules for district formation, national committees, political donations - except "let the states deal with it." When we get through this mess, that must change in the constitution.

SCOTUS made this scenario possible. They abdicated input on all gerrymandering and abandoned the 14th amendment when it comes to equal protection.

Democrats should have intentionally gerrymandered all the states they controlled at the time to an extreme position point out SCOTUS' failed reasoning. Instead Republicans used it to chip away at the civil rights act and reduce protections for minority representation.

The final ax will fall on that next year when SCOTUS rules making majority minority districts unconstitutional. Opening the door for discrimination and even more extreme gerrymandering in red states. Blue states must gerrymander or lose all hope of fair representation in congress.

I wish every Democrat would watch “The Fugitive”. Harrison Ford is wrongfully convicted of murder and sentenced to death. He escapes a bus-train collision, steals an ambulance, and sets out to prove his innocence. The lesson is this: NO ONE GETS MAD AT HIM FOR STEALING THE FUCKING AMBULANCE.

Unfortunately, Democrats MUST play by the same rules Republicans are playing by to offset the issue of representation at the federal level. Overall, constituents from both sides are being disenfranchised because Republicans are playing dirty.

Dems have no choice. We are at the cusp of civil war. This is maga’s fault. They wanted to force their far right extremist views & a pedophile loving dictator on the rest of us. They own all the negative fallout from their actions.

Fight fire with fire. These MAGA goons intend to wipe out our liberal democracy and replace it with religious zealots imposition of their “morality” including pedophilia if you are rich enough. This is the definitive moment to take back our democracy and have it serve all Americans with dignity

If Republicans are going to gerrymander then Democrats must also. Or be shut out for the rest of our lives. Maybe that's what they want. It's hard to tell with liberals these days.