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"Return" on "Investment"? In this rot economy? Investment always goes out for cigs and never returns.

You can ask Google's AI why is ROI important for business and it will explain it to you

It’s all a bullshit metric man. The stock market is just vibes. But when the whole product is vibes yer fooked.

He has a point, does ROI factor in hopes and dreams?

why do they all talk like they're trying to be sephiroth

It's always been the friends we made along the way.

When someone goes to correct them...

It is cool that they're just immediately conceding that the ROI is terrible and will not improve though

Obviously the proper metric for success is social media engagement.

I’d buy it as being incomplete or the only consideration, but AI as it currently exists is purely about investing in the potential of something, so whether or not the amount being invested is resulting in anything is just about the only thing we can measure.

How dare you question our money furnace! You can't expect us to make money while spending money.

Profit is now an arcane concern for business. We live in a post-profit world where spin will deliver all our dreams.

May I have their email, I have some investment ideas for them

Sure, ROI is used by every other business, but AI is a very special boy with its own metric for success. That makes business sense.

/Me to my wife as the electricity is shut off after losing all our money investing in AI Arcane paradigm, things of that nature

Have you ever considered my feelings about how these chatbots treat me like a king should be measured over ROI?

The new, much more important metric is ROV. Return On Vibes. Can't you feel it?

ROI is BS, it's capitalism

Gonna let my boss know this is why he should pay me to just chill and stuff

Please let them know that I am happy to take some of their capital if they are unconcerned with ROI

Me personally when I give someone my money with the intent to get back more than I gave them, I don’t really care if I don’t get anything back. I can just go to my money tree and get more money

seems fairly easy to figure out what a year's worth of work is/should be, so maybe one issue is that business management is shit and no one knows how productive anything should be?

Whoever wrote that clearly did not understand the meaning of "arcane."

Strictly speaking, ROI is not the be-all and end-all of determining the quality of a product or service. However, it is a strong indicator of whether something is worth investing in, and the abysmal ROI of AI companies makes the continued investment seem baffling from a financial perspective.

The same people are probably arguing for cutting the social safety net for the exact same reason. Subsidization is good, when me, actually!

this meme but worse bc they are like, "you fool, you absolute imbecile, why would profit have anything to do with revenue or costs"

So a business shouldn't be measured by ROI? What kind of wide world of sports internet cult is this country?

The fundamental concept of making money is archaic. We have moved beyond the need for your primitive "finance" - in the new paradigm business is built on the Higher Order of Life Time Cube.

The bullshit arcane paradigm of getting more money back than you put in.

You and your quaint notion of "Revenue - expenses = profit" 😏

Man, that's what *I've* been saying this whole time I'm glad they're finally agreeing, just a shame they already kinda destroyed the environment and any remnants of the postwar social contract

The cutoff is sending me.

I genuinely loled at "arcane paradigm"

A better measurement is obviously how much insider trading one can get done before the rugpull.

Yeah that’s an insane response to ROI which is like a simple formula to understand the basics of

I don’t know man he used the word paradigm, if that doesn’t signal big brain smarty pants I don’t know what does

I saw Arcane Paradigm one year on the Sunday afternoon in the John Peel tent.

I have written so many capex pro formas where I have to promise so much new revenue to merely justify updating an existing system, it’s gotta be nice

Who needs money in a money centric society anyway?!

FREE YOUR MIND AND YOUR 401k WILL FOLLOW

It's a kind of cheese, isn't it?

I do wonder if some of these takes are from people who watched that Rory Sutherland video on the doorman fallacy and AI but have misunderstood it, thinking that AI was the doorman, rather than the automatic door.

The “this time it’s different” crowd.

Clearly this emailer has never worked in business. Every dollar spent should have a ROI analysis done before a check is cut If you’re not getting a Return on your Investment, why invest in the first place?!?

One of the Brilliant characters 😂 m.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAd...

Russ is exactly who i was imaging reading that comment.

Maybe call it Vibe ROI and it would sink in. 😂

How is ROI arcane? Money In < Money out is a very simple conceptt.

"investments don't need to pay off. if the investment's vibe is right, it'll all be fine."

OBJECTION!

This must be that new paradigm I keep hearing about

What should you be measuring the usefulness of your investments on guys? Fistbumps?

only losing vastly more money than you get back forever is good, actually

it's the Damascus Golems in the Undercroft that drop Arcane Paradigms, I think

All these years business perverts have been saying that companies only exist to make profit Now they're like, look it's about the future

Karl Marx writing out M-C-M’ and then seeing that post like

You're right when you say the people still cheering on AI are just idiots.

yes, that arcane paradigm of "not going broke"

2 secs emailing the admins of capitalism about this

Someone ended up on the wrong side of an ROI calculation and now gets triggered by the mention 🤣

Are they against classic, established capitalism metrics? Are those people..... Anti capitalism 😂😂😂????

I would never email you saying ROI is bad. I just email people begging them to read my novel like a desperate slut.

I question your focus on pee as an indicator of poo

You should be focusing more on JOI, in my opinion

oh yeah, making sure you... make money off of your investment... is an arcane paradigm?

We're at "ROI is a bullshit metric"-levels of cope now. Is that good?

A thing doesn't have to "do anything worthwhile" to "have a multibillion dollar valuation"

Unfun fact: Vivek Ramaswamy called his bioscience investment company *Roi*vant because of the ROI it is supposed to generate.

By "ROI is a bullshit metric," they mean the idea that paying money for something should return some kind of value? The concept of buying a thing because you'll be better off with the thing than without it??