Post

Suddenly I really understand why they thinking using other people's writing without permission is fine.

These guys’ lives center around wielding power in all the awful ways that people with unchecked authority have always lorded over other people, and their ideologies center around letting them pretend that this time is somehow different and virtuous

I'm quite sure there are those working in that field that wouldn't get involved in a sex cult due to their religious beliefs alone (not necessarily christian). Because that's what actual diversity looks like.

Holy yikes But also I'm pretty sure I *can* in fact come up with some reasons why heavy LSD use by top officials in companies that are embedding themselves ever-deeper in the government/military contracting world is bad

“Oh, God! Who could have predicted that a hallucinogen-fueled rape-play event could have taken such a dark turn?!?” —a bunch of self-professed geniuses

I always hated the “move fast and break things” philosophy because it’s a bad enough philosophy for software development; but also I *knew* the people spousing it were always looking for ways to apply it IRL too. Scary times.

Give that old school sex cult that promises me space on the mother ship. 70s sex cults were vastly superior

I was talking to someone and said this reminds me of the cocaine-snorting bankers of the pre-2008 crash. Different rich guys, different drugs, same trajectory of catastrophe.

Rape party

Just had to Google CNC and it explains so much about AI and consent especially combined when with drugs. It's all a recipe for abuse and boundary crossing.

What I picture cnc parties to be

Oh. Thanks. And... yuck!

It isn’t a cult because of the sex. It’s a sex cult because of the sex. It’s a cult because of the intellectual incest, control, insular use of language, etc.

Yo act out a fantasy rp in which you are not consenting. Also known for it's more vulgar name "rape play" I have engaged in it before as the bottom, and you need such a strong trust in the other for it to be safe there is no way the techbro party version of it does not devolve to actual tape

Perhaps he would prefer "High control group that uses sex as a means to that end"?

And coerced CNC sex parties are... 100% a cult thing. Hey, they are **diagnostic** of a cult.

If you ask basically anyone "Does vast wealth and unchecked power drive people completely insane?" most would just intuitively say yes. Right up until they are confronted with examples of that exact thing.

Yeah, see, I don’t see the mere correlation of money and non-vanilla sex automatically making it a cult. That would make any random M&A attorneys having a three way into a cult. That’s just silly. If the sex is somehow part of a power hierarchy, then fine, but I haven’t seen that suggested.

Honestly "cult" is probably generously downplaying the horror of an industry that has normalized the idea of boundary eroding sex parties attended by all the people who have control over your professional & financial future. 🤷🏻‍♀️

But it's also true that "sex cult" was a major feature of the appeal of Nazi leadership. It's a red flag. Since this behavior is accompanied by other antisocial behavior I think it's fair and not prudish to question that culture.

Yes, and, just because they're fucking doesn't *make* them Scientology. And if they're a cult (which I'd tend to agree with based on their weird quasi-religious beliefs about AI and the End Times) that doesn't make them a *sex cult.* Eyes Wide Shut was a sex cult because the whole thing centered

Whether or not it's a cult it's a massively discrediting conflict of interest to all their endeavors. The fact that everyone is fucking everyone DOES matter.

But you are replying to a post that started with a woman’s account of the coercive nature of certain environments and saying, because you haven’t personally seen it, the behavior she’s talking about shouldn’t be stigmatized?

“move fast and break things” was always about breaking people

you cannot take LSD every day with the same effect

Idk, you’d have to ask someone who actually knows how drugs work

Yeah, I started researching the mechanism after a week long festival in my 20s... (For the sake of science: I also discovered that MDMA has some crossover tolerance, but not complete. Mushrooms even moreso). Basically these drugs make us trip on what we've already got in our head.

Point being, if she was actually taking it every day, she wasn't feeling anything from it pretty quickly. Even microdosing regimens have you taking it every 3rd day or similar.

I mean, they *could*. But it would stop doing much. Basically, the neurotransmitters that get dumped haven't had a time to replenish.

I'm sorry what, "consensual non-consensual sex parties"?

exactly

Symptom, sure. But I have a hard time seeing it as a cause. On the other hand, it's probably a handy meme for demonizing them with the normies.

I have no idea what "consensual non-consensual" is supposed means, unless it's some variation on BDSM. I assume it's more than just simple sexual assault and/or rape. But maybe it is just a euphemism. The freaks are certainly capable of it.

wait what CNC sex parties?

What?? It feels like this should be getting more attention. I had no idea.

Maybe your average Texas Presbyterian churchgoer has a point about Californians

it's mostly pre-arranged to some degree, and has some level of safewords. So pretty rough sex, often some level of violence, but with (if done properly/safely) agreed-upon limits and boundaries and the ability to go "nope, stop". For "violent non-violent", think, like, backyard wrestling or similar

What a great way of putting it

True but I fear being disinterested in other people's weird sex risks turning a blind eye to a lot of abusive behaviours. Outside the weirdness it is not enough for these activities to be consensual, they must be meaningfully so as employees, minors, the drugged etc cannot freely consent.

Wait, I thought people were saying the sex cult you talked about didn’t matter? ;)