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Michigan Senate is another. Oh and 2016 presidential election.

To expand on that thought, its funny that third parties aren't pouring a ton of resources into candidates in Maine, Alaska, and NYC.

Good point. I have thought about it, but I never actually drew that conclusion from it.

Approval voting is simpler. I wouldn't mind seeing NOTA find a way into reform too:)

Merge the current electoral districts into blocks of 4-5 representatives each (for states that have that many Representatives). Enact proportional representation. Profit.

Washington voter here. Yep. Please give us RCV statewide. Voters in Seattle will use ranked choice voting in the Aug 2027 primary to determine the two candidates who will appear on the General Election ballot in local races. kingcounty.gov/en/dept/elec...

Evers endorsed Crowley is what happened.

RCV likely produces a Stevens and Hong win?

Ranked choice does not address any of the ways in which the electoral system is wildly undemocratic. The only thing it accomplishes is increasing the effectiveness of money in elections, since a larger factor in elections will be pure name recognition.

RCV doesn’t solve that. RCV is just for politics consumers who think that more choices = better choices.

And with two people on the ballot who had already dropped out…

@gelliottmorris.com ranked choice would also help crowded primaries like this one avoid the numerous votes cast for candidates who dropped out between when ballots were printed and election day Of course if ranked choice voting was instituted then conservative Democrats wouldn't have as much […]

Also, there's no need for candidates to drop out to keep from splitting the vote in their faction. If someone does drop out, it doesn't cause the chaos that occurred in WI because you already know second and third choices.

To be truly fair, we have to deprive ALL voters of real choices! Look, think of it this way — if a uninformed voter only ranks one candidate, their vote could be WASTED! Our current system is better, where Republicans can get 43% of the primary vote and earn both of the general election slots.

Good idea.

STAR > RCV

but preserve the proportionality that’s good about the D primary process. expanddem.substack.com/p/how-democr... #RCV #RankedChoiceVoting #IRV

Going to assume your candidate of choice did not win…

Some folks here prefer approval voting, but I fear it gets us back to gaming the system, in that, if you really support one candidate strongly, you might say you "disapprove" of rest, including people you might have ranked 2d or 3rd in RCV.

This Mainer agrees

A jungle primary where the top 4 or 5 advance (assuming they all meet a minimum threshold, say 5%), followed by RCV makes the most sense to me right now. And if any candidate gets a simple majority in the primary, they win. It’s the easy solution to the flaw exposed in CA’s primaries at least.

The DNC's first priority is preventing progressive upstarts from ousting establishment dinosaurs. Unless I'm mistaken, ranked choice voting is not aligned with their interests. Too democratic for the democratic party.

There are issues with states giving all their delegates to a single winner instead of dividing them proportionally, even if they use RCV to determine that single winner. Wouldn't it make the first few primaries matter much more? And make it less important to campaign in every state? Do we want that?

Yes but that doesnt solve the problem of primary voters trying to predict electability.

it is pretty annoying to me that out of all the alternatives to fptp, the general public seems to have latched onto the worst one

You should check out STAR voting if you haven't. www.starvoting.org

Is it, though. I find RCV pretty straightforward.

Could probably eliminate a lot of the confusion problem and resolve most split vote elections by giving a chance to name a second choice. Surely voters can grok that

I did some volunteering for an RCV group here in Massachusetts until I talked to friends who are pollworkers in RCV jurisdictions. They've found that many voters are horrendously confused by the ranking system, and it's worse when there's a language barrier.

AV forces me either to not express my pro-preference, or not express my negative preference. I honestly cannot think of a multicandidate primary in recent years where I had a simple up/down set of preferences. I *always* had 1st choice, 2nd choice, and often anti-choices (i.e., NOT this one).

Exactly! The Missy Hughes voters deserve a voice!

Not ranked choice voting, which doesn’t fix all the problems. Rather, concensus choice voting is best for all the reasons described by Ned Foley here. www.sir.advancedleadership.harvard.edu/articles/how...

Dems do at least so that we actually know where most people stand.

I doubt anyone would interpret the win as diminished in any way but with approval voting you could frame it as an unqualified win anyways. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approva...

people don't like them." A second person says, "That's funny - I like anchovies too!" Third person: "Me too" Turns out *everyone* in the group likes anchovies. If everyone had been able to (say) rank the ingredients (or their top 5), they would probably have had a pizza they all liked more.

Why should a "mandate" ever be desired? It's only ever used to deny large numbers of people's voices. Even a 60/40 break (HUGE these days) would, if taken as a "mandate," deny 40% of the voters (and more of the population). No one in a representative democracy should ever think they've a "mandate"

This is the exact correct takeaway from this election

Same can be said for the Michigan Senate, California, Washington State (those have jungle primaries), even Illinois with regards to some congressional districts... the list could go on and on. I think those who opposed RCV back in 2024 might be having second thoughts.

That’s exactly why they won’t do that.

Elon Musk is paying a small fortune trying to get Alaska to get rid of it. Says it all. The world's wealthiest man owns the world's largest social media site/Nazi bar, and he still knows his views can't win if ranked choice voting is allowed to spread.

Republicans loathe it because it threatens to make a more representative government.