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its hard to beat the brainwashed and misinformed ....

Bernie Sanders is the last living Democrat

Unfortunately, Bernie is likely right. Bernie understands the Democratic party better than most.

Not electing AOC. SHAME OLD Same.

My guess is his answer to the next question is “let’s run on healthcare for all and 25 dollar national minimum wage” next time….sigh…sometimes I wish WE were the party of one issue voters.

(2) Right wing governments around the world, including the US, don’t care about these “ethnic cleansings” because it’s happening to poor people. This is what the party of musk & trump will do here. Black, Brown, poor people, elderly, non English speaking people will be exterminated.

The uniparty is profitting handsomely off the genocide in Gaza. They will keep funding and arming it regardless of if there is a D or an R on it. The lot of the billionaire class need to be locked in cages or worse, regardless of party affiliation.

I can't stand Netanyahu or the Likud Party. However, no genocide is occurring in Gaza

Please move to Gaza.

Some truly incredible replies in here from our blue wave patriot resistance

I don’t want Centrists to be mad at us. I want them to join us.

i too am angered by truths that i refuse to do anything about. similar to my getting angry at my belt for telling me what's up as my waistline expands after eating a bunch of shit.

On the one hand it's funny to watch them and poke them with a stick but on the other hand they make my blood boil and I'm going to give myself an aneurysm if I keep looking too long.

Instead of waiting for people to hand everything over to them, the Bernie wing of the party can get the votes, win elections, and show us all how it's done. Maybe he should do that.

This is so Bernie (who never learns).

Is the lesson to be learned don’t talk about LGBT issues because you might piss off regressive Americans? If so, fuck that.

Because they are incapable of learning. After Harris lost it was all finger pointing and excuses. Staying the course is the only way they know.

i mean he's right

Fuck Bernie Sanders

It's remarkable how they expect us to sit there and fawn over politicians, treat them like a bunch of ersatz celebrities the way conservatives do. I like the left because if leadership is doing a bad job, I want to say as much. I don't want to have to make people out to be better than they are.

A few things Democrats are very good at it is losing elections they should have won, blaming the left for their mistakes, and alienating working class folks (often by showing contempt for anyone who didn't vote for them) while doing almost nothing to help struggling folks.

Lemme rephrase, “what could’ve been train” and find his successor

Yeah, that's the thing. They got by on COVID in 2020 despite a bad candidate, but lightning didn't strike twice.

If I had a little more space in the comment, I would have added that. Biden on his own was not a compelling candidate, and last year he was even less appealing.

"Israel has a right to defend itself"

Handing billions of dollars in military aid to Israel *while they are committing genocide* isn't enough for you? You want them to say it out loud, too? Not even Biden is that dumb.

They never do. They’re already taking about needing to make Gavin Newsome their own Trump. And distancing themselves further from Transpeople, which makes that month the Harris campaign took off to cyberbully Chapelle Roan hilarious.

He’s not wrong.

I'm hesitant to fully say that - but then, the amount of pure graft we saw with the Harris campaign, which blew over a BILLION on that short term abortion, was insane.

Trump winning keeps the Dems in a job. If Dems won regularly, they'd start having to worry about being too centrist. I'm pretty sure they like having a bogeyman to pretend to fight, so that they never have to address any real issues.

sigh...yup

Get the most votes in the primary and your preferred candidate will win. It’s not that complicated

Then they need to adjust if they want to win elections.

As they should.

Damn, you're right. Remind me why they are called "representatives" again?

With all due respect, they are fucking representatives of their party. If their base is moving left, they need to quit funneling money to centrist candidates who dont enthuse their base. Make it make sense

This is where Fettermans come from.

The same guy who has watched these exact people keep fucking up and refusing to learn over 40 years might be right.

My favorite meme for American politics.

Lol no it hasn't.

I'd love a more progressive party. But we have to deal with reality. Bernie couldn't even win the Democrat primary.

What a bunch of horse shit. You’re lost.

No they didn't.

The increasing Medicare to cover in-home care, more price-caps for prescription drugs (extended outside of Medicare), assistance for home-buyers, child tax credit (permanent). Might not be what you want, but these are left wing policies. There was also a proposed tax on unrealized gains.

Like these were empty promises but they were a fig leaf at least

Or at least the establishment will attempt to try that hopefully the democratic voters will revolt against such bs

The rank and file that aren’t terminally online will go hard in on progressive populism. It’s only the terminally online crowd of neoliberals who want to hang on. But even I want them to leave neoliberalism and join us in the progressive populist movement.

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You're wrong, and also we're getting close to 10 years since Hillary lost. You need to move on with your life.

Still believing this at your big age is sad

but go ahead, give Liz Cheney that medal of freedom while weeping openly about justified losses from nearly a decade ago

Hell yeah fuck Bernie for what we did to her (if you are reading this please help me, I am stuck in a time loop)

No he didn't. Did you suffer a head injury? This is why you won't learn anything after Harris' loss. You didn't learn anything after Hillary's.

Fighting with facts doesn't work for Trump supporters so the Democrats may have to stoop to new lows too. That's risky. People come to believe their own rhetoric. The dumbing down of American society carried out by the stupid and those that want excessive riches and power is painful to watch.

that a boy bernie let the bitterness consume you til there is no more you.

i mean they didnt learn from any other loss so why would they learn from this one

He's won forty years of elections, like even if you hate the guy, you don't see any validity or coalitional power there? He lost the 2016 primaries by three tenths of a percent c'mon...

People want the simple things like a home. Instead we get told the words we can't say, the words we must listen to, the new fines to pay. And that being homeless, or poor, are bad choices we made.

He’s being generous. The answer is definitely not.

Lol

Lol. 2 out of 3 ain't bad....yes it is. And more incoming. "GO team Liz"!

Not everything is about race and gender...

Harris got about six and a quarter million fewer votes than Biden, while Trump got about three million more than in 2020 The loss was absolutely to a large part due to a failure of dems to get their people to turn out.

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The comments by democrats here just prove Bernie right…

kinda optimistic tbh

Meanwhile, a centrist special interest group wonders if canvassing the exact same neighborhood a few more times would have made a difference.

He's so real

Bernie is honest

This also includes past generations. We are going to dig up Latino graves and chuck them across the border

continuing the policy of being deeply deeply humiliated by the sort of people who actually vote for them

What's to learn? The Dems do what the oligarchs say even if its "jump off a cliff". Same with the Repubs.

how about not participating in genocide

When the other guy is trump, that's not an excuse to stay home, so it's still ableism

Lol. That's not how most democracies work.

Why shouldn't he have?

Okay. You're proudly ableist scum. Congrats

I'm not sure what there is for Democrats to learn. But MAGAs will learn what it means to back a conman and grifter...

If they are smart, they will finally realize they can learn a lot from Bernie.

They spent four year circling around the "normalization" that Biden would bring after Trump when I think a LOT of voters on the Left were wanting to see something NEW that would finally upset the status quo. Of course that didn't happen because the Dems love the status quo.

No. But a hell of a lot of Dem voters loved Bernie. Yet the DNC made sure that didn't matter. Could he have won? Uncertain. But he was certainly handicapped by the party -- their voters' wishes be damned.

You may be on to something. In 2016 we did try the conservative, corporate-owned, old white woman and almost made it. I was shown that, this time, white women preferred the Marauder in Chief, which was for me, an old liberal white guy, counter intuitive.

There's a reason Pelosi wanted Newsom to replace Biden

yea.