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I wouldn't say Tom Morello isn't a Lib It's that he's far more of a lib than the average lib - He advocates working-class empowerment, Indigenous rights, anti-racism, & human rights. He's anti-capitalist & VERY anti-establishment. One problem with average libs is he finds them too pro-establishment

Not sure how he’s opposed to liberal values - seems plenty anti authoritarian to me. Though I guess lib is a slur from the right and left these days.

I can't think many positions more anti-art than the idea that art needs to stay apolitical. Absolute fucking philistine position.

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Because musicians are human beings that are allowed to express their political beliefs through their art, you fucking moron. You don't suddenly lose the right to speak about politics the moment you pick up a guitar.

Dude, if you had to have it explained to you that "Killing in the name of" is a political song you have no business complaining about politics.

"Why does fkn politics have to come into everything we live and breathe! This is why we can't have nice things..." Because art is inherently political. You can't have One or And Justice for All and claim you aren't political. The whole point is the music is that the system doesn't work.

We know your names, we won’t let it slide Nazis? Fuck 'em!

Even Dave spotted that ffs, the title track from countdown is partly a pop at Hetfield for joining in on caged hunts. When even that lunatic has your number in 199fucking2 you know it's not a tough puzzle to crack.

I just love that for them

bare minimum I figured everyone knew Hetfield sucked at LEAST since he cut off his hair but ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

it’s really funny reading which way people in the replies go with “Tom Morello is not a lib” lol

(said only with love – scan my feed for infinity examples of autocorrect or terrible typing)

Tom Morello is fine. I have thoughts about his fender advertisements, but the guy's heart is in the right place. Seriously. People were surprised that he didn't want to vote for an apologist for genocide. Remarkable. Like, what are we doing here.

define “winning”

Like I said, I’m not pissed at him.

I can say it for you? KIM KNOWS MORE ABOUT METAL THAN YOU NERDS COULD EVER IMAGINE. FUCK OFF.

and then when someone does know about metal, half the time they take it as an insult and try to gatekeep you or one up you. one of the reasons i stopped posting on metal forums or trying to befriend folks at shows

of course, it’s the replies from casuals and tourists that kill me

but you emphatically do know more than me and you should absolutely talk your shit, sister.

Insecure men are the bane of humanity Kim

Yeah but you're also giving the rest of us good stuff to listen to, so it's really appreciated

\\m// GRIM KIM \\m//

Yeah! I’ve been figuring for my life with this book deadline but once I turn in my manuscript, I’m doing a big Salvo relaunch

I do have the feeling that "liberal" was once a direction along a line, rather than a point on it, but maybe I was just not paying attention...

Pretty sure Metallica lost the plot a long time ago. Meanwhile, one of the local slam bands: "This next song is about [redacted] a white supremacist in the streets!"

I just got served them the other day, theyre great

a metal band, sharing a political opinion? perish the thought terminalnationhc.bandcamp.com/album/one-pa...

Yeah metal is totally apolitical guys. Super apolitical. The most apolitical even. youtu.be/H5FBvGpgGWg?...

Monster Magnet is technically hard rock though.

Brat fucking rules!

James Hetfield thinks War Pigs is a song about a particularly unappetizing ham sandwich.

Hey, thats the guy from Reform Within The Machine, who gave us such timeless classics as Brunch On Parade and Billing In The Name.

in case anyone is curious: youtu.be/k-QsFMIoPa8?...

Metallica is just the ultimate nepo baby band, innit. The real crime in anything related to them is Lars' drumming.

And they looked badass!

It's just that nobody really cares. Nobody buys albums anymore unless they're fans, and it's hard to get new fans because the choices are endless. Meanwhile, Spotify is sopping up all the profits and fucking over the artists. It's only gotten worse for artists.

I didn't say it was better. It's bigger. The doom and gloom was that artists would stop making music.

I still torrent one of their albums regularly just as a fuck you

Thank you.

I hold them unforgiven 2

Some of those that work forces Are the same that burn crosses So...fuck you, I won't do what you tell me

Neighbor has been helping recordmy folk tunes in his studio and his band is…metalcore is the term. Idk how to ID the kinds. When I read their Wikipedia it was like “several songs criticizing American militarism post 9-11”. Nice. He wore Public Enemy T-shirt to my first session. Pretty good sign.

morello lives in CA, so his vote for pres didn’t matter either way bc of the electoral college. he didnt help trump into power, billionaires, right-wingers, and democrats who did not do anything to hold trump to account for breaking laws and ran a shit presidential campaign helped him into power.

ibid dummy

I’m not trying to explain anything about him, just trying to communicate my understanding of him to hopefully help clarify what I’m NOT understanding about him.

i get what you were asking. just wanted to clear up what kim kelly would almost certainly mean when she says lib, just from knowing her labor reporting

For me, the dirty little secret about economic policy is: too much of one thing is ultimately disaster. We need to shift based on need. To me, capitalism is cannibalizing itself into oblivion at the moment, so I’m radically leftist. The opposite can be true too but the US has never seen it.

Or everything about Jon Schaffer.

Partly because that's who is in charge of the party that has positioned itself as liberal. The people espousing FDR liberalism are now called progressives, leftists, or even socialists.

on bluesky maybe use the word "liberal" to basically any normie over 45, even old school democrats, and they'll think you mean a stereotypical bluehair most of them don't even know what NEOliberal means

James Hatfield being an emotionally stunted reactionary is like a core part of metallica experience? The guy who wrote dyers eve was killed by the guy who wrote fuel.

You had better not be conflating James Hetfield of Metallica with the experimental and hugely influential Canterbury band Hatfield and the North! 😠 😁

Wait till they hear about Industrial

This is a thread I fully support. 🤘🏼

There's nothing like raging against the machine when you're signed to Sony and playing gigs for Live Nation.

Can you please confirm that you mean morello is left of liberals, and not that he said something on a podcast I need to know about

Lib must mean something different in US parlance.

When you manage a company like Metallica, you ought to know your customers. That's juste the sale department speaking.

It's OK. They can commiserate with Paul Ryan.

“James Hetfield isn’t a chud” Absolutely wild thing to think. My guys their most famous album has the Gadsden snake on it with a song literally titled “Don’t Tread on Me.” It was quite obvious.

Maybe if Rage’s lyrics hadn’t been so subtle, we wouldn’t have this problem. Hetfield, on the other hand, I’m skeptical about. That wasn’t really him, that was AI. The real Hetfield would have ended the rant with “baaaay-bay!!”

the "controversy" is that he didn't vote for her in 2024 consequence.net/2026/10/tom-...

Okay, that makes sense.

You gotta get out more if you think refusing to check a meaningless box is more “nauseating” than supporting genocide

As the Framers intended, the Electoral College disenfranchises many people's general election presidential votes. As a Californian, this includes Tom Morello.

Tom and Serj lowkey might be libs a little bit