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It does seem daft that we’re interested in colonizing a planet where we can’t step outside and breathe the air.

I like how you think!! : D <3

Seems easy to recycle until you realize that wood and paper are for many uses actually worse than plastic and there are thousands of kinds of plastic which you would need a chemist to sort. Make less waste to begin with. No more .05 ounce earbuds in 15 ounces of packaging, for starters.

Those are great ideas in paper. I think to make any lasting changes our lifestyles need to be worsened, less and more expensive products and services, less fun. Not many will want that. Also why did Elon, Trump and the hate for billionaires enter this discussion.

They are all about destruction.

Ok. How?

The decline of our own planet shows we can’t terraform Earth very well, let alone a more hostile planet like Mars. That being said, there are better ways to help the needy than to defund science.

Do both ?

Love it-you probably could call Elon.. xo

Based Lizzo? Am I just knowing she's this dope? What hole have I been living in?!

It's shocking how hard it is for tech dipshits to realize that it is 1000000x easier to terraform earth to human optimal than it would be to do so on mars

Not cool enough for the tech bros.

💯 Been saying this for years!

But that would benefit the poor 😕 The only humans who will ever MAYBE live on Mars will be billionaires who wouldn’t think once about the ones they leave behind

By moving to Mars a selection can be made Who can go to Mars. While fixing earth means Everyone gets to be saved. Conclusion: they only want “some people” to survive

Amen.

We can do both if there's the drive to do such a thing, it isn't about lack of money and never has been. Both space exploration and minimising our impact here on Earth are important to our future.

Yeah, but then Elon’s fanboys would call him woke and he’d have to ruin another social media company to make them like him again.

My hot take is that zero humans need to live their whole life outside of the Earth in the nearest 300-500 years.

The person in the GIF could help by recycling the papers they just tossed on the ground.

If we never invested in discovery we would still be in Bronze Age stupid fucking whale

Right! How is it innovative to colonize on Mars but it’s radical to fight global warming here on Earth??

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$10 Billion? Yeah, you need to add about 4 zeros to the end of that (conservatively.) And then, assuming someone figures out a way to re-establish a magnetic field, and we can find enough ice in the asteroid belt and get it to Mars, maybe it would work - after 250 - 350 years.

Musk and others have more money than they'll ever be able to spend in their lifetime. They could have given up some of the money to do good. To improve the lives of everyone. Musk would have been hailed as a hero and respected. But, instead he chose to be a greedy, despicable, hated villain.

What if we cleaned up the oceans with $10 billion of the $175 billion we gave Ukraine?

Both of those things would more likely cost 10 trillion. And Mars unlike Earth doesn’t have owners of each patch of land to interfere :)

There was a definite connection between being able to see the whole Earth for the first time and the birth of the environmental movement. Seeing how bad it sucks to live on Mars could have similar effect in modern times.

Interesting ideas. . .

Shhh... facts hurt their feels

It would be closer to 100,000 billion to terraform Mars

Agree. The amount of money used on elections alone could make such a dent in solving so many social ills.

Yes! Earth first

Thank you Lizzo!!

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True. If we have the tech to terraform Mars, we have the tech to clean up earth

Well I guess their logic is instead fixing our planet might as well cut our losses and move to a new one . Of course it doesn’t make sense but i suspect they wouldn’t be bothered doing it unless they feel that there is money to be made by doing it

That would make too much sense and no money from selling land on Mars

But the egos?

More so it has no magnetic field. It will be using any atmosphere anyone creates there very fast. There would need to be constant waste of a lot of money to pump more gases to form an atmosphere, every single year

It took hundreds of millions of years for the first atmosphere to be stripped down to what it is now. It would take an equally long timeframe for a new atmosphere to be depleted- even longer, because the Sun is now less active.

It doesn't have a spinning iron core like Earth does, so there's no magnetosphere to keep lethal solar radiation from reaching the surface. If these guys were serious about terraforming, they'd be shutting the hell up about getting there and starting with massive geological alterations.

And anything that would remotely come close would be a trillions / economy-of-earth for decades or centuries scale effort; $10B would be a drop in a bucket, which is criminal given the good it could do here and now

Wow no imagination. Thank God you’re not an engineer or scientist .

And give a full effort to Flint having actual clean drinking water

Seriously. We don't need to subject the rest of the universe to humanity. Maybe we just keep it on this planet till we collectively get our shit together.

What a concept. Every other freaking day there’s another SpaceX launch here. All that money blown up to nowhere and then polluting our air and ocean. I don’t even go outside and watch them anymore.

"Whatever effort it takes to ship a billion people to Mars and terraform it would be a whole lot more than just... fixing Earth." -Neil DeGrasse Tyson

That’s not how parasites work tho

Both is good

100% with you on that one. ☝️

Nah, they'll hoard everything like greedy dragons they are.

They ain't gonna terraform shit. I could get into the logistics of how Mars just isn't habitable and to make it habitable would require manpower and tech capacity we don't have, but it's easier to say "the fat jackass who lies about everything lies about this too to grift"

Yes ma'am!!

You mean you wouldn't want to live on a cold dead world with nothing but desert and unbreathable air? Some billionaires have substantial wealth but no sense.

Guess it seems more logic to some to destroy the next planet.

That would imply it wasn't some giant butthurt nerd dick measuring contest to begin with.

It’d be pretty sweet if anyone was trying to terraform mars, and especially so if it only cost $10 Billion. Two things can be true at once. We can fund space exploration and address climate change. The sad thing is we won’t.

Spitting facts ❤️‍🔥

That’s it right there 👏🏽

'Undo the damage from deforestation' has to mean 'use soldiers to kick small farmers off their plots of recently cleared tropical forest' - rewilding the Scottish Highlands doesn't move the needle - and *really* isn't something you want individual oligarchs doing!

Very true, but why didn’t the Harris campaign use at least half of their billion in donations to start doing *something* in this direction to set an example? Because they abandoned progressivism…

and spend the rest of their life with the commoners hell no!

I mean....just sayin 🤷🏽‍♀️🫠

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Haven't the knuckleheads read the. books? FFS read the science fiction.

There should be no drought in the world - with vast seas and desalination technology it’s just a matter of distribution!

Exactly. We ruined one planet already, why all this effort to ruin another?

They could Do both I imagine

Too intelligent a comment for people on X.

If they think they can terraform Mars for 10Bn, they're underestimating by roughly the same multiplier with which they overestimate their penis length.

Are you giving up some of your $$$, also?

Unfortunately resources are being directed towards fueling political instabilities in various countries instead of funding something more developmental!!

Thank you!

Christ, they could end world hunger but their heads are so far up their egos they only focus on their perceived challenges, to leave some sort of twisted legacy.

The US could do more but the problem is how do you get countries like China from undermining the work we are doing. 👇

As much as I want to see what's out in space, we can't even take care of our own place... Maybe we shouldn't spread out.

LOL! It'll cost a lot more then 10 billion to terraform Mars. Musk has already wasted 100 billion just to build a rocket to get there faster. I did the math. Musk's idea to terraform Mars is simply a con job. Ironic that the guy in charge of DOGE has been the biggest waste of Gov. grant money. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Or! We could take a long look at all of the broken treaties with my people the Wiyot and other North American tribes. The treaties in affect are in need of review as well. Hopefully my non profit and others like it can rescue our indigenous youth from what our ancestors and kin are suffering.

And live down here with...poor...people??? Their capitalist asses could never

They don't care. They're billionaires. Their dream is to know they can exploit every last natural resource on earth to make a buck and be safe in a literal bubble on another planet, leaving the little people behind to suffer the consequences of their actions.

Don't worry. Once I get that rocket to mars built I promise to blast off to mars and never come back

But that would help people....//s

Mankind can't change the weather on this planet, but we can on other planets, sounds reasonable.

#ImagineThat

Elon wants money and fame

Migrating to Mars is a pipe dream. Don't let it get in the way of protecting The Earth.

It’s a grift. Those 1% MF always want to be in the “exclusive experience club”. For once, I saw fuck’em. Much like the Titanic undersea “overpriced experience”, this Mission to Mars shit will get them killed. I would never trust Muskrat, w/my life.

And build an infrastructure capable of doing public transportation really well, reduce fossil fuel reliability, and provide affordable health care.

And then a giant meteor hits and we all die. Or a super volcano goes off and we all die. Or a nuclear war happens and we all die and irradiate the earth for eons. Don’t put all our eggs in on basket

You got that right! But that makes too much sense Lizzo! You know this next administration are climate change deniers. God forbid they help our planet first before they destroy another.

Why not both?

Testify

Makes so much sense. That’s why it’ll never happen 😂. Unfortunately we humans tend to do the opposite of what sense. It’s all fueled by greed in the end.

That’s what Mars IS. Except there wasn’t any intelligent life hiding out to rebuild and restore it. Like we already have here.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLv...

Terraform Earth! Nobody in their right mind wants to be dragged off to be thralls of the Elon Empire of Mars, never to be able to come home again. The hard facts of space and Mars are spelled out in #TheExpanse for great scifi horror. That’s not a lifestyle.

You're forgetting industry exists. Ain't no cleaning up shit until the white man got his bag yessir

I love you sis!

76,962,889 voters chose the decrepit, mentally declining psychopath billionaire who’ll die before he ever sees the catastrophic environmental damage he causes. Gen Z and Alphas will have so much to fix for the next 50+ years. Our only hope is a Democrat supermajority in 2026 to stop the bleeding.

They haven't terraformed Florida yet!

Try a trillion for starters.

I don't think Musk or anyone else has any real intentions to terraform/colonize Mars. It's just another con he can delay indefinitely and collect government subsidies and manipulate the stock market. Musk is stupid but there's no way he's not aware how impossible all of this is currently.

That would require nations and billionaires to take responsibility for the damage caused

That’s not an exciting California proposition. If it were, the act itself wouldn’t even be necessary. They would protect the environment from the outset.

Yeah, I’d absolutely choose that option if it were possible. Unfortunately $10 billion wouldn’t even make a mark on surface. That’s about three days of oil industry profit. They’ve been doing that much worths damage every three days for the last fifty years. Might fix three days worth of emissions.

From a capitalist standpoint that wouldn't even be in their to-do/bucket list 😔

Also, without a molten ferrous core to dynamo-power a magnetic field, any atmosphere generated by your terraformed photosynthesis on Mars, will just get blown outward by the solar wind to be caught by the gas giants.

Agreed. While I look at it from a technology perspective (computing), if I may, Big Tech building nuclear power plants to train their LLMs goes to show 1. How they disregard climate change and 2. Money that could've help with starvation, climate, etc.

If anything the fact they aren't able to do that here is proof they can't even start to do it on Mars.

Er....more like 100 TRILLION.

That's what they said

Yes! The National Forest Foundation always needs a little help funding their reforestation projects.

Mars looks worse than basically anywhere on earth, so have to agree.