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In terms of what cures are being lost: - Epstein-Barr virus is perhaps the major trigger for multiple sclerosis - herpes simplex virus causes cold sores, genital herpes, infections in babies, deadly meningitis - shingles virus causes an intensely painful disease

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These are efforts to make cures for multiple sclerosis, herpes — affects hundreds of millions in the US alone! — and shingles. This is mindblowing, amazing stuff. But these efforts for cures require a predictable regulatory environment, where decisions are made based on science & and pub health.

that is, things that draw communities together, not politics and falsehoods intended to divide us. And this matters. Cures for major diseases are on the line

For the scientists and docs: shingles / herpes zoster is the disease, the virus is varicella zoster virus, which is a herpesvirus

And beyond that if anyone has questions we should ask a virologist, I’m just a neuroscientist from a small town whose mind has been blown by the MS/EBV studies

"Efforts" by profiteers is only to make money without killing anyone, at least right away. Personally, I will not let spike proteins enter my body, or anything poisonous as "ingredients". Some things have no cure that is feasible, unfortunately.

The other message here is : we can rinse the US healthcare market - we can’t do that elsewhere, nationalised healthcare systems have too much bargaining power.

Im disabled and take like 20 pills a day to set the scene. One of the top 3 most painful things I've ever experienced (and I've bles internally) was shingles w no sores. You do NOT want shingles. Fuck this company and fuck the us

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I hope the research isn't lost and someone else can take over, but I suspect Moderna will both ask them for $$$$ for that and block anyone using the research (patents etc)?

This is OUTRAGEOUS. That Kennedy has interfered in essential medical research in this manner is so WRONG. He has no medical training or education WHATSO EVER. Sniffing cocaine from a toilet seat doesn’t qualify him. He is a dangerous nihilist, just like the majority of them in the Trump orbit.

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There are far bigger markets outside the USA. My own take on this is that us foreigners don't have an equivalent term for : "We want to make obscene amounts of profits out of suffering." I looked up gazillion in French. It comes out as 'lots'. Which is a bit like using, zut!, for fuck ! 😁😁

Over Their Head RFK has to prioritize his focus on whatever will kill the most kids. So measles, polio. Dirt rubs have been shown to be equally effective at reducing every contagious disease as they are at measles.

Every American can lay this squarely at Trump's feet. He created this issue. It's all his fault. RFK Jr. was his pick. Our HHS has been dismantled and rendered impotent. Americans will die due to their combined negligence.

The secondary element to this is that they can't make the profit they want without the US. It shows exactly how much we're all getting screwed by the pharma industry. They have the entire rest of the world, but that's not enough without the massive profits they squeeze from us.

Bullshit and also fuck the US model of dangling ill people money in front of big pharma like a carrot and fuck Moderna specifically for getting rich off COVID. And dont forget that this pharma model is *provably* bullshit, the firdt COVID vaccine was developed in Germany with *PUBLIC MONEY*.

RFK Jr is one twisted sister that is going to cause more illness and death than Typhoid Mary. I suggest the same treatment of him as she finally got.

Meanwhile a Canadian created insulin and didn't patent it because he felt profiting from other people misery went against everything a medical professional stood for 😮‍💨

WAIT WHAT? ... Mark, please forgive my ignorance but I thought it was satire at first ... ... is that first one named after Jeffrey & Bill !??!??

Is there any reason to do this other than a.) to inflict substantial continued pain and suffering on people, or b.) because sicknesses tied to these drives healthcare costs up in a way that broad vaccination would erase?

1. Research companies make obscene profits. 2. We still need scientific research as there's so much we don't know. However, it's got to be ethical - for humans. And no animals to be used (which is cruel, slows down results & whose results are dangerous to extrapolate to humans anyway).

Is someone keeping a list of the damage this president and his know-nothing administration is doing? Include lives lost through end of USAID and ICE, the east wing, the Kennedy Center, our reputation and power on the global stage, experienced professionals in U.S. attorneys offices, etc etc

Seems very short sighted when there is an election in a few years, unless the billionaire CEOs know from their contacts that there will not be an changes in administration, no elections coming.

Thankfully there's more than 1 pharmaceutical company. Pfizer is still moving forward with these vaccine development. BNT163 is the code name for it if you want to see where they are. I'm very excited for its development.

When SARS-CoV2/Covid-19 vaccines were made available I did deep scientifc research on which of the jabs I wanted for my beloved family- Moderna was hands down the best of the lot. Between their extensive & meticulous research it was clear the pharma was heads above in saftey protocols.

Not lost. Other countries have their own excellent research programs. For instance, the University of Queensland (Australia) invented the HPV vaccine. Moderna also just opened a vaccine facility in Australia so make of that what you will. We're a relatively small population of 28 million.

This totally bums me out, I want updated vaccines to help me stay healthy. If people don't want to take vaccines that's their perogative, but this administration, Kennedy, banning or not funding research is wrong.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???? I have a LIFELONG case of chronic pain and itch due to Shingles. I wouldn't wish it on...well, maybe most of our current administration, but FUCK - THESE THINGS ARE PREVENTABLE AND WE ARE THROWING THEM AWAY. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Very sorry to hear that. Treating the pain from shingles killed my grandmother. But To be fair, we do have an existing effective shingles vaccine. Would Moderna’s be better. Nobody knows.

I am 1000% percent in favor of finding out. The problem is Kennedy wants everyone with “inferior genes” to die. The US is fucked under this regime. Makes it more important that Europe provide better incentives for new drug development. They have the brainpower, they just need better policy.

We can thank Russian Active Measures for efforts they've made to undermine American idiots' confidence in vaccines. That's the country this massively corrupt government have a 12 trillion dollar handshake agreement with to sail Ukraine down the fuckin river. Signed: 58 yr , can't get COVID booster.

I was under the impression that there was already a highly effective, 2nd generation vaccine against Shingles in the shape of the "Shingrix" vaccine; something I have myself received!

Corporate greed and the federal US government are inextricably (and OPENLY) entwined under this regime, so they're one and the same anymore.

I'm no rocket scientist here, but shouldn't we be investigating non billionaires who are also in the epstein files too? Like, if Jimmy the homeless guy was also somehow on rape island abusing children, I think Jimmy also deserves a very long prison sentence along side Leslie Wexner and Elon Musk.

You're highlighting the dark side of our viral friends. What's the most surprising connection you've learned about viruses and human diseases?

The American Medical Association has funded Republicans for years. Even if these physicians don't really care about their sacred oath not to harm, they should have at least evaluated how it would affect their own livihood.

Calling EB a trigger makes no sense. A prerequisite sure, but 90-95% are infected. The global rate of MS is 0.00395%. if it's a trigger it's got a real failure rate in firing!

While the current idiots in power are definitely trying to kill off and make life miserable for millions of fellow Americans, note that the corporate stand is that it takes America to bankroll their research to benefit the rest of the world with lower prices.

another Long Covid sufferer here - and that was after EBV in my teens caused CFS/ME, POTS, hEDS, MCAS, etc. etc. etc. Vaccines against all of these illnesses would be so good for human suffering plus 'the economy' We all used to get measles, pox, etc. that didn't give most people long term 1/2

symptoms but we decided to wipe those diseases out. Just because EBV doesn't hurt 'most people' (disgusting reason) doesn't mean we shouldn't wipe it out. We have the power to alleviate human suffering - governments should fund this! They EXIST to help make citizens' lives better, safer, healthier.

I'm sure the sentiment is expressed here elsewhere, but Mr. CEO is merely calculating how best to serve his shareholders. Actual advances in Pharma are only one of the instruments to achieve this. Whatever tool is available, folks. Pretending to care about public health is a much lower priority.

And this is where you can see they care more about money than people. I say this all the time—so what are we going to do about it? Greed at this level doesn’t get fixed with a few polite requests; it takes massive, systematic changes in government and regulation.

So the rest of the planet needs the US (5% of the population) to catalyze the development of new vaccines? That's an indictment of the economics of the vaccine industry and/or the unwillingness of the rest of the wealthy world to pay for stuff, or both IMO. What am I missing here?

None. Moderna is not the only drug company in the world. Competitors will continue the research beyond the reach of RFK/Oz. Moderna will lose. Yes their research will temporarily be delayed. I guarantee they will restart as soon as they see the writing on the wall. Perhaps it's time to lose the CEO?

That's sad. But also the major issue with big pharma is the ROI. They egregiously overcharge the American market because they can; so they can make an exorbitant profit

CEO responds to the FDA saying we won’t approve your drugs because MAGA, and CEO says how can I stay in business if I can’t sell my products in the US. So top 10 villains in this story. #1-8: Kennedy, FDA, Trump, Repub senate, Rep House, MAGA, MAHA. #9 Europe, #10 Moderna.

Private companies need profit. Creating new drugs is expensive and does not always work. This is not an insulin situation ; it is quite possible that they simply can't make those vaccines without having a loss...

Does this mean the existing shingles vaccine is being pulled from the market? Like should we run out and get a shingles vaccine asap?

If there's ANYTHING you aren't up to date on, I would absolutely make sure you get your shots ASAP. When this regime took over, I made sure I was good on shingles, measles, etc., just to be sure. There is NO expectation of this fascist regime doing anything for the public good, full stop.

When this administration is finally brought down, we need to keep exactly 1 (the very worst) prison camp in nation just for these assholes. Lock em in with just each other and leave them there to starve.

Imagine we lived in a world where healthcare advances weren't determined by a profit motive... They don't have to be, but in the world we've made they are.

Another reason for "health" in general for not being in the capitalist market game. Too important to be something for the only aim of making huge benefits. But the world its a shit, and USA system more. Sad that public founding for this is not even an option.

In 1990 I was having chemo for triple neg breast cancer. While lying in bed I read about research being done on a drug for HER2+ cancer. Wow I thought, that’s great. Hope I never need it but…so glad. Smash cut to 2014, well turns out I did need that drug and it was there for me,this is heartbreaking

But the USA is only like 18% of the world population? If the USA doesn't get the vaccine, no one will have it? Is the USA were they just set their own prices and have to negotiate with all the other countries in the world? It doesn't make sense to me...

It's 18% of the world market, but with our capitalistic health care system over here, the US market is a HUGE driving force of profit for these companies. US people spiraling into medical debt are basically bankrolling the greed of these companies to create new stuff they can then overcharge us for.

Gotta love some good old fashioned capitalism :) I think it is criminal to keep the rest from the world from getting a cure when the medicine is basically ready to be made...

Most countries that have universal healthcare negotiate lower prices for drugs, while the US allows them to charge whatever they want.

Herpesviruses are both bad in a whole lot of ways and essentially impossible to get rid of once infected. Effective vaccines against them would bring about immense benefits to public health in an extremely economical manner.

RFK says he wants to tackle chronic diseases while ignoring infections but is too dumb to understand that many chronic diseases are caused by infections.

The desecration of the medical science in the US should be considered participating in 2nd degree murder! Republicans know people will die at their actions but ignore it! They should be held accountable

EBV can also be a chronic issue for many people. My brother ends up in the hospital every 18months or so because of latent EBV that rears its ugly head. A vaccine would be amazing.

This is so heartbreaking. I’m just a sales guy but worked in clinical trials for almost a decade, I was in their Boston office when the only “first in patient” vial on the front desk was Zika. Oh yeah, they also single handedly solved Zika.

If these ghouls insist on setting "sky-high profits" as the benchmark instead of "reasonable profits" or, i'unno, "helping humanity while making enough to keep the doors open" Maybe it's time to step in and take over.

I hate to defend Moderna or any other pharma co., but Moderna is not in a profitable state as-is. They need the drug candidates that wind up working out to be highly profitable to make up for the losses they are currently experiencing on R&D right now.

The ideal solution will always be governments doing drug R&D through the path to market, but right now I don't see many doing that, and one of the biggest nations for drug research is currently isolationist and killing off funding.